Brett, I guess you're talking about the restore of back-linked
references (e.g. the memberOf links of a user object), by auth-restoring
the appropriate forward-links (e.g. the member links of the appropriate
groups) during the auth restore of an object (e.g. the user).

yes, that's nice, but it's still not complete as the process will only
restore the references in the same NC - which is fine in a
single-domain/single-forest infrastructure, but still leads to problems
in multi-domain implementations (e.g. even with LVR, you won't restore
the UG references to groups in another domain).

/Guido

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We actually go one step further than this ... we also if we're in LVR
mode, and the link reference/membership was added post forest mode
change, then we even auth restore restore references.  That's sort of
merging from the other angle.

Cheers,
Brett Shirley
(msft) AD Dev

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Grillenmeier, Guido wrote:

> sounds like you need a forest (or full domain) recovery if you screw 
> up with the ADC... - how many DCs per domain do you have?
> 
> btw - the logic of "merging" data gets a new touch when you auth.
> restore groups in Win2003: once you're at 2003 forest-functional-level

> (LVR enabled) and you wish to restore group authoritatively, you'll 
> also find members that were added to the group after the backup will 
> re-populate into the auth-restored group, since with LVR the members 
> are replicated separately as well...  In this case, I usually preferr 
> this "merge" feature, as this will guarantee you to get the group back

> to a most up to date state (unless a specific script, virus, stupid 
> admin or whatever process accidentally populated all your groups with 
> garbage
> data...)
> 
> /Guido
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> Auth restore will auth restore attributes that _exist_ in the backup 
> as they were at the time of backup, but not auth restore attributes 
> that didn't exist.  Ergo it kind of works as a merge of old attributes

> that were set and new attributes that were set post backup.
> 
> ... So is the CA data perhaps in attributes that are not set on the 
> backup objects?
> 
> Further like we merge the attributes that are auth restored over any 
> existing ones, we also merge in objects as well.  So a new object post

> backup will not get "auth restored" (i.e. the closes thing woudl be to

> delete the new object)
> 
> Just grasping at straws, don't know much specifics about CA or ADC.
> 
> Cheers,
> Brett Shirley (msft)
> AD Developer
> 
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > dear all, sorry to "bomb" the list with queries, but was hoping to 
> > get
> 
> > a heads up on this issue of authoritative restore subsequent to a 
> > directory modification using ADC
> > 
> > we are testing the procedure of rollback of a domain that has been 
> > modified using an ADC connection agreement
> > 
> > i have a backup set taken prior to the processing of the ADC CA and 
> > can confirm the successful restore of a DC to the prior state. (no 
> > email address in the user objects no CA objects etc)
> > 
> > despite the fact that this data is restored authoritatively as soon 
> > as
> 
> > the restored DC is attached to the network with its DS started the 
> > data prior to the CA processing is overwritten with the data from an

> > another server
> > 
> > have followed what seems to be a simple process of auth restore;
> > 
> > 1. boot into DS restore
> > 2. restore system state and c: using the original location / always 
> > overwrite 3. restart 4. boot into DS restore mode 5. run ntdsutil  /

> > authoritative restore / restore database
> > 
> > my first thought was that the ADC has created that many chages that 
> > the default version increment of auth restore (7000000) is not 
> > enough for the restored DC to have higher USN than the server that 
> > is left online
> > 
> > have tried auth restore with the verinc value of 10000000 but still 
> > the old data gets overwritten
> > 
> > any clues ??
> > 
> > GT
> > 
> > 
> > 
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