That would be your RDP permissions most likely. By default only
administrators can log into a server that doesn't have app mode TS enabled.
Look in Terminal Services Configuration.

Just the same, I don't think it is the greatest approach. There really
shouldn't be a lot of need to look around like that. Good monitoring,
consistent system builds, and familiarity with the environment / good
documentation should make it unnecessary. 

  joe

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abbiss, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 10:23 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Logging on to a Domain Controller

Okay, as you were so helpful as to provide your reason for asking, so will
I.

We have two groups of administrators in our setup. There is Group 1, who can
actually log on and make the necessary changes and there is Group 2, who
should be able to log on and be able to "look around", check running
processes, check settings, etc, but have no ability to start
installing/removing software or making other system changes.

So I would like to be able to grant this second level of administrators the
ability to log on to a domain controller but so far I have not been able to
do it. I have followed various instructions but all to no avail. The message
I see is saying "You do not have access to log on to this session".

So if anyone can suggest a way to allow me to set up a group with the
ability to log on to DC's with a restricted set of rights, Iwould be
eternally grateful.

Many thanks in advance.

Mark 



-----Original Message-----
From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dienstag, 14. September 2004 15:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Logging on to a Domain Controller


The reason for the question is that allowing local access to a DC
substantially impacts your security. It is extremely bad practice and poor
form to give non-domain admins interactive access to domain controllers. The
recommendation from everyone, including MS is to not do it. Why? Because if
they so choose, the person you give the access to will most likely have the
ability to get administrative level access and can hopscotch that into
complete forest admin access - usually with no knowledge of the DA's and
EA's. 

Most people tend to do it when they don't know how to do things in a better
more secure way. When we ask why, we are trying to understand the context to
better provide solutions. I.E. Lots of people ask for lots of things and
most of the time they don't know what they are asking for else they
generally don't need to ask. Not saying you fit this category but before we
give someone a loaded gun, we like to know that they intend to point at a
rat in the dumpster versus their own head or foot. 

My general answer to someone who wants to give someone else interactive
domain controller access is to give them domain admin rights, then you
aren't fooling yourself into thinking you have a secure solution. 

  joe

 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abbiss, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 9:00 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Logging on to a Domain Controller

Is it really important why ? I just want to know how it might be done. I am
weird like that.

Thanks for any other tips anyone might have.



-----Original Message-----
From: ASB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Montag, 13. September 2004 21:44
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Logging on to a Domain Controller


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I would like to give a group of our 2nd level administrators the ability to
log on to all Domain Controllers. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Because?

-ASB


----- Original Message -----
From: Abbiss, Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:32:47 +0200
Subject: [ActiveDir] Logging on to a Domain Controller
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


I am going round in circles and am now completely confused !
 
I would like to give a group of our 2nd level administrators the ability to
log on to all Domain Controllers. I have applied a group policy to the
"Domain Controllers " OU which sets the "Computer configuration -> windows
settings -> security settings -> local policies -> user rights assignment "
to give this group "Log on locally" rights. I have also ensured that the
group policy is applied to all authorised users. I have no problem logging
on as I am an Enterprise Admin, however, the other admins are denied the
ability to log on.
 
Therefore, I modified the local DC security settings to give the same group
the "Log on locally" right. Still they cannot log on.
 
Please, what could I be missing ? Do I need to set access rights anywhere
else ? Can I do anything to troubleshoot what rights this group is getting ?
 
Many thanks for any help.
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