We have both products. I've had to use both in DR scenarios. Go with Quest's ERD(ARM) for Active Directory. It is a night and day difference in terms of time, granularity, as well as the prospect of success. I've worked with Tivoli Storage Manager on the Windows platform for a couple of years now, so these statements are not from lack of experience. The Quest (Aelita) product really does live up to the documentation and corresponding expectations.
We have biannual DR exercises. We've removed TSM from the documentation and corresponding process specifically for the Active Directory database component. Also, with ARM for AD, you can schedule such a frequency and retention such that you can position your company/infrastructure to be able to restore deleted users, OUs... even passwords within hours of their deletion or corruption. Although you could almost parallel this functionality with TSM; the effort required once you actually began the restoration process would orders of magnitude higher. There are ways around it....but that's part of my point, with TSM in this particular capacity... you're always going to have to find ways around some limitation of lacking of ability. TSM didn't appear to have the granularity of restorability native to Active Directory when they designed the AD backup/restore portion.
Try it yourself. You won't be disappointed. If anything, you'll notice the capabilities that I've left out with respect to Quest's ERD for AD product.
Hope this helps...
Eric Jones, Senior SE
Intel Server Group
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| "Chris Flesher"
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You need to read into how Directory Services Restore Mode works before
moving further.
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> Sorry, good point. I wasn't clear enoug.
>
> I'm wondering about granular restores of active directory
> objects or OU and child objects. We have one group pushing
> to purchase Quest's Aelita Recovery Manager for Active
> Directory and another pushing to use the TSM installation we
> are already using to backup and restore the file systems and
> just extend it to backup and restore Active Directory
> objects. If TSM can perform the granular AD object restores
> then we save a boatload of money. But it just doesn't appear
> to have that feature.
>
> > What do you mean by object level restore? Do you mean
> individual COM
> > objects or file/folder/user objects?
> >
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> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Anyone with TSM experience with Active
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> > > I'm being told that TSM can perform object-level
> restores. All I can
> > > see in literature and the actual backup/restor GUI is entire
> > > systemstate restore. Anyone have TSM and able to do anything
> > > different (better)?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mike
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