Title: Delegation of group membership changes to add users and not to add other groups
A is definitely the best answer in terms of a guarantee. C is the most fun. :o)
 
For a quick workaround I would combine B wih C. A script that checks groups for nested groups and then if it finds them cleans them up, then sends a note to everyone who can change the membership the group that had the problem and what group had been nested in it. Basically give enough info so someone could chase help desk tickets and embaress someone. Make sure you catch the managers of the help desk staff as well as possibly the security group.
 
Note that even with custom taskpads and such, people can manipulate groups with scripts and command line tools...
 
  joe


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thanx..
We also thought about option C, but we would than ran out of helpdesk employees and have to change the group memberships our selves.  ;-)))) (very bli smile!)  just kidding..


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a)       third party provisioning tools, Quest/Aelita/Similar

b)       run a scheduled script to strip out groups within groups every fifteen minutes

c)       publicly beat a helpdesk employee to make an example of them – oops, don’t we do that anymore ? ;)

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Sent: 28 October 2004 12:16 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Delegation of group membership changes to add users and not to ad d other groups

 

Hi Everyone,

Our situation:

OU "Groups" with all security groups
OU "Users" with users
OU "Tasks" with a taskgroup named "TK_ChangeGroupMembership"
Helpdesk accounts are member of the group "TK_ChangeGroupMembership"

The group "TK_ChangeGroupMembership" has been delegated the control to change group memberships of groups in the OU "Groups". With this solution the helpdesk has the possibility to add a user to a group. OK..., but the helpdesk also has the possibility to add a group to another group (group nesting) AND WE DON NOT WANT THAT! So we created a taskpath view so that the helpdesk only sees the USERS OU. With the last solution the problem still exists because the helpdesk guys open the properties of a user in the USERS OU they still have the possibility to resquest the properties of the groups the users are a member of, and therefore they still can add a group to another group.

I think I've tried everything, but no solution until now...

Does any of you know how I could solve this?
Thanx!

Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Infrastructure Consultant
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