A small Canadian lobby organization likely won't have that issue unless they
lobby in the US, right?  Or is there something that says a Canadian org
needs to comply with US regulations even if they don't do business with a US
company?

Al

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Many Canadian companies are affected by stuff like Sarbanes-Oxley, although
granted a small shop here in Ontario probably isn't.

Phil 

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I noticed the Canadian domain though and figure he has other issues to
contend with.  EU and US rules and regs aren't likely high among them yet
(ofa.on.ca is the senders domain). 

But that would likely be true for that and many other regulations around the
world.



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Not to mention illegal, if you're under Sarbanes-Oxley controls, right?

<mc>

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Yup, you brought it on Deji. :)

To add to the fodder:

Keep in mind that passwords are stored in a way that prevents you from
getting them back out without cracking them.  That's not a foolproof way to
gather the data you want.  

I agree it is a bad idea to do that.  However, if you wanted to get them and
let them change their own passwords, you would want a web based system that
collects the data at the beginning of the cycle.  You could then use the web
interface to change passwords on other systems as well providing additional
benefit.  Something like IISADMPWD in a modified version might be useful for
such a solution.  

If you haven't heard it enough already, it's a bad idea to collect user
passwords though.  It defeats a ton of safeguards and puts you at risk for
finger pointing etc.  Better to just reset passwords and tell the user of
their new password should you need to access the services as that user, as
suggested by plenty of others on this thread.

Al 

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Omg, Deji...here we go

<mc>

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I don't think there is such tool natively. I imagine that you could put a
web interface on a vbscript where you direct your users to go to when they
need to change their passwords. In the code, you will then put in a routine
that grabs the value they type in and email it to you.
 
Now, I will get away quickly before Joe shows up with another
"why-you-should-not-do-this" clue stick (I mean, KB article) :p
 
 
Sincerely,

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Yesterday?  -anon

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 Hi Group,

    I have already delved into the archives and I couldn't find quite what I
was looking for. It is very possible that I looked over it, and if I did I
apologize in advance. Now, to my question: We are a fairly small shop here
(about 40 users) and the traditional way of doing a password change was to
collect new passwords from everyone and then I change them in AD as well as
in a couple of other places (i.e. like synchronizing them with our
non-Exchange mail server). We did this so that in case somebody was away on
vacation and we needed to log on to their computer (with their profile) we
could do it. It saves the hassle of say, logging in with a domain account
and then manually opening up a PST file or something like that.

    I would like to have the user's change their own passwords, but I would
also like to be able to know their new passwords. We have had numerous
issues in the past with people telling us their wrong passwords, so I would
like to get it straight from AD if possible. Right now the only solution I
can see is cracking all of the passwords, but that isn't the most feasible
way.

    Does anyone know of a solution? Maybe something like an email generated
by some sort of script with the new password? Sorry if this email dragged on
for a bit. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. 
 
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