Yeah, I figure that, but what I am being told is to find "the cheapest way possible" to do this. This is not my decision as I believe that disaster recovery is not something you want to go cheap on. However, these are the parameters that come down from my superiors as frustrating as it may be.
Thank you for your help. I am also looking into NSI Double Take; do you have any experience with this product? _________________________ Daniel DeStefano PC Support Specialist IAG Research 345 Park Avenue South, 12th Floor New York, NY 10010 T. 212.871.5262 F. 212.871.5300 www.iagr.net <http://www.iagr.net> Measuring Ad Effectiveness on Television The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way using any of the information contained within this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by telephone 212.871.5262 or by response via e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Boza Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:06 AM To: ActiveDir List Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Hot Spare Site Dan, In all honesty, you don't build hot site capability for $25K. Using a replication service across WAN links is incredibly expensive from a bandwidth perspective. I mean, realistically, you can't even buy a server and 50 workstations to put in the remote site for that money (which you stated you expect to need to do), let alone begin the process of replicating data. For the kind of money you are talking about, realistically you are looking at a warm server or two in your remote location, and shipping backup tapes there in a regular basis, depending on how willing to lose data your company is - if all the data up to the backup is required, then you ship every day. Buy all those folks that need to be able to be onsite laptops in the next hardware refresh cycle they hit so they can bring their system with them to plug in at the alternate site. Immediate failover capabilities easily gets into the million dollar plus range. I've designed these solutions for clients in the past and have on more than one occasion been asked to do so only to have others choke when we start discussing what the costs would be. The desired SLA is almost always in direct opposition to the budget (some sort of theorem there, I think). Rick On 11/19/04 9:45 AM, "Dan DeStefano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is definitely a hirearchy of importance for users. The site would likely > need to physically host like 50 or so workstations and all the remaining > 100-200 users could probably work remotely via a terminal server farm or > something to that effect. > > Yes, I am thinking of the site being able to failover immediately or within > 24-48 hours. Replication/geographically disperse clustering sounds like what > we are looking for. I have been looking into Veritas Global Cluster Manager - > is what you are referring to? Would Exchange be cluster-aware of this product > or only for MS Cluster Service? > > _________________________ > > Daniel DeStefano > PC Support Specialist > > IAG Research > 345 Park Avenue South, 12th Floor > New York, NY 10010 > T. 212.871.5262 > F. 212.871.5300 > > www.iagr.net <http://www.iagr.net> > Measuring Ad Effectiveness on Television > > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be > privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named > addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly > prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way > using any of the information contained within this communication. If you have > received this communication in error, please contact the sender by telephone > 212.871.5262 or by response via e-mail. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mulnick, Al > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hot Spare Site > > > Additionally, what do you define as restoration of service? Do you have to > restore service and data to all users instantly or are some users more > urgent than others? > > File/print restoration of service indicates that you want to have the data > available seamlessly. That often looks like a replication and/or > geographically disperse clustering solution. > > Exchange is another animal altogether and requirements definition needs to > be tight to easily solve that one. > > al > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hot Spare Site > > It completely depends on the budget that youwould(could) have for a project > like this and the corporate definition of the services that would be > required to a Hot Site DR situation. You mentioned Exchange and file sharing > as the two most important so that answers one side, what do you/your company > deem as cost-effective? Would 25k be the range, or is 250k or 2.5mil a > reasonable number. > > How immediate does the transfer from production site to DR site need to be? > Does it need to be instant or is a lag of a few hours or even a day > acceptable? > > Phil > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 3:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [ActiveDir] Hot Spare Site > > I have been given the task of coming up with some strategies for creating a > physical hot spare site for our headquarters for disaster recovery. Not > having done this before, I am not sure where to begin. The two major > resources that need to be replicated are our file shares and our Exchange > server. All other company data, web applications, Web sites, etc are at > colocation sites. > Does anyone have any suggestions on the best and most cost-effective > way(s) to accomplish this? A good bulk of our users can perform their jobs > remotely via terminal services temporarily if need be. Could a terminal > server farm work effectively using primarily what's built into windows > (terminal services and load balancing), or would Citrix be the only > solution. > > I would greatly appreciate any help. > > _________________________ > > Daniel DeStefano > PC Support Specialist > > IAG Research > 345 Park Avenue South, 12th Floor > New York, NY 10010 > T. 212.871.5262 > F. 212.871.5300 > > www.iagr.net <http://www.iagr.net/> > Measuring Ad Effectiveness on Television > > The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be > privileged and is intended for the exclusive use of the above named > addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are expressly > prohibited from copying, distributing, disseminating, or in any other way > using any of the information contained within this communication. 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