Real scenario - The way in which 2003 AD integrates the _msdcs subdomain
(now a zone) causes it to replicate forest wide.  This one zone subsequently
becomes writable on every K3 DNS(/DC) server within the forest.  I didn't
ask it to do that, I didn't intentionally make a key component of AD
available for modification ... all I said was "replicate it better"
(obviously that's highly simplified but you get the idea :-).

Hypothetical scenario - I'd like a non-AD related DNS zone available at
every one of my hundreds of sites.  Each site has DCs/DNS servers running
K3.  I'd like the zone's writability constrained (and enforced) to the
head-office site alone.  The moment I AD integrate to take advantage of the
vastly superior replication semantics, I inadvertently expose it to offsite
change ... again, all I wanted was to exploit replication not the
multimaster nature of AD.  

I can, of course, re-ACL the whole thing but, believe me, that's more pain
than I'm prepared to inflict on myself ... you, on the other hand, may like
that ;-).

My feeling is simply this; we would be better served by being offered a
choice as to which features are made available when a zone is AD integrated.

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Dean Wells 
MSEtechnology
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I see what you are saying, but ..... why would I want to store the zone info
of DomainA in the AD of DomainB in an independent/disjointed, non-trusting
environment? What would be the compelling reason? Would something improve or
work better if this is implemented?
 
 
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Deji,

There would a concept of "AD integrated secondaries" had MS decided to write
it; it may be desirable (to some) to maintain read-only yet AD replicated
zones.  I guess the point in question is - MS didn't.  I've asked the
question directly to those that chose not to within MS and their response
was quite simply "because we didn't :)".

--
Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
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Because when it's integrated, there is no concept of "secondaries" as we
understood it to be in pre-2Kx world. It's there in AD, and any DC can see
and write to it. Now, if you are secondarying the zones on another server
located in another forest/network, why would you want to store that info in
your own AD. You will not be modifying that zone locally on the secondary
anyway. Or, are you intending to?


Sincerely,

D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon

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Sent: Fri 11/19/2004 6:56 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Why no AD integrated DNS secondary zones?



OK, integrated stub zones are cool, but I'm curious - why did MS stop there?
Why no integrated secondaries?
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