Good thing you work for a liquor company then - presumably you get an
employee discount?  That may be the only solution if management insists that
non-secured systems can plug in anywhere they please.

"My advice to you is to start drinking heavily."



On 11/22/04 4:51 PM, "Kern, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I suggested the vlan solution,but these guys move around alot and the sales
> managers sometimes want a meeting in their office,sometimes in another
> office,etc
> Since the sales guys generate all the profit,everyone kinda cowtows to them.
> Noone wants to inconvienve them. so i'm looking for a solution that goes
> around the roaming virii users without making them change.
> 
> sigh...
> 
> thanks
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul van Geldrop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] virus/worm
> 
> 
> Even though that first line might sound rather amusing, it might just be
> the trick to get things done.. it's amazing how management can decide to
> .. bend the rules, let us say, when it concerns their own daily
> routines.
> 
> Consider placing the laptops in a restricted VLAN. This might require
> that you get some procedures OKed regarding access and availability, but
> it'll be worth it. If you're going to invite a load of foodhungry virii
> into your network, at least make sure they only get to feed on
> themselves.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ASB
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] virus/worm
> 
> Wait until your bosses machine gets infected.  Maybe that's what it
> will take to get the policy changed.
> 
> And you should try using another AV product if the current one is not
> keeping your systems cleaned from known viruses.
> 
> How are you cleaning them when you find them?   (read: are you sure
> you're actually cleaning them?)
> 
> -ASB
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 15:27:58 -0500, Kern, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all. I am having a serious issue with bot type worms that keep
> infecting my machines over and over. It doesn't matter that I'm fully
> patched and my virus defs are up to date.
>> I use Symantec Corporate Edition 9.0 in a win2k mixed mode AD
> enviroment. My machines all have the most up to date patches and hot
> fixes.
>> I have seen machines that are up to date in everything get reinfected
> time and time again. The worm is a varient of what Symantec calls
> Spybot.worm32. It usually creates a exe in system32 called Explorer.exe
> or 386.exe or svchosting.exe and no matter the defs it slips by
> Symantec.
>> 
>> This is a posting perhaps better sent to a virus or Symantec list,but
> you guys seem really knowldgeable  and I'd like to pick your collective
> brains about how to deal with this issue.
>> I assume its getting in via laptop users wh take their pc's home at
> nite or some of our traveling sales guys,but if my desktops are up to
> date and patched,they should'nt get infected.
>> No?
>> Am I being naive?
>> 
>> Finally,we are a liqour distributor and alot of times we have
> suppliers from other companies come in with laptops that give powerpoint
> presentations and access our internet connection. These guys are from
> elsewhere so they don't have accounts in our domain and thus log in
> locally.
>> How can i protect myself against these guys? Management insits they be
> allowed to do their thing with their laptops on our network when they
> come in and since they don't log into our domain,I can't even push out a
> GPO and I'm at the mercy of these guys and what hteir IT dept did or did
> not do.
>> Help!
>> 
>> Thanks alot. If I can get a solution to just one of these 2
> questions,I'll be a happy man.
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