I think this is what Darren was getting at :-]

The standard Administrative Templates shipped with Windows only contain
true policies, as distinct from preferences

 The Group Policy Object Editor does not show preferences. If you add an
.adm file that contains preferences rather than policy settings, you
will have to clear the Only show policy settings that can be fully
managed check box on the Filtering dialog box under the View menu of
Group Policy Object Editor, otherwise the settings will not be visible
in the console.


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Tick the box to show preferences?  What is this?  I thought that if I
loaded the adm into admin tools then I would not have to use the
preference mode?

 

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Justin-

I am replying to this on two different lists with two different ids--not
working :-)

 

So, I can get this ADM to load just fine on a GPO from XP. Of course,
you have to tick the box to show preferences, since these are all
preferences, but it does work. 

 

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When I do that I get 

 

The inetcorp.adm file is not for Windows 2000.  These settings will not
be displayed.

 

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Well since those preference mode settings are just ADMs, you can simply
load inetcorp.adm "out of band" within the Admin. Templates section and
you should be good to go. 

 

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However I cannot configure TIF to check for newer version of stored
pages on every visit unless I am in preference mode. Do you know of
another way?

 

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Justin-

Yes, you've got it right and it makes total sense. The combination of IE
Maintenance and IE related ADM lockdown is the correct approach for
controlling IE. However, if you really don't want the user to change
their IE settings you don't really need preference mode. It is really
meant for "suggestive" settings rather than mandatory ones. 

 

Darren

 

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Sent: Tue 11/23/2004 7:50 AM
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OK, lets try this, If I configure in Preference mode all the URL's, the
Security Settings, Privacy settings and Advanced Settings, they all get
applied one time.  Preference mode basically means "I would like for you
to have these settings but feel free to change them".  Since we then
cannot enforce these settings, we then used the ADM templates to lock
down the settings that we have configured.  For example, URL for
homepage is configured in Preference Mode and then in the ADM we
configure the ADM to disable changing the homepage to lock it down.

Does this make sense?

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SO let me see if I understand you here.  If I am in Preference mode and
I configure IE to check for newer versions automatically and I configure
the home URL in the same policy, will users be able to change the home
URL if I locked it down in the Administrative Templates section of the
policy?  If the URL does happen to get changed on the local machines IE
Properties will the policy change it back?  I read somewhere that in
Preference Mode, the policy will apply only once and then each time you
change a setting.  So if the Home page changes, the home page will not
be reset unless you actually modify the policy.  Is this correct?

If I have a separate policy just for preference mode of the IE
Maintenance section and only configure the advanced settings that are
added by doing this and I have my regular policy that modifies all other
aspects of IE Maintenance, will inheritance work and the client get the
settings from both policies with nothing being overwritten?

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Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:08 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Configure "Check for newer versions of stored
pag es"

Sometimes I really wonder who writes some of these KB articles--and do
they get vetted for readability? I agree with you Justin. Totally
non-sensical. I'm not sure what they're trying to say but the bottom
line is, when you use preference mode, you have to additionally lockdown
the areas that you specify in IE Maintenance using Admin. Template
policy if you really don't want the user to change the setting after its
initially been delivered.

In any case, what happens when you enable Preference mode is you get
this additional set of ADMs that are loaded into the IE Maintenance
namespace. Specifically inetcorp.adm and inetset.adm. However, these
ADMs haven't been updated in a while and in the testing I've done,
certain things just don't work in IE6--like specifying IE TIF size.
However, I did just test the setting you are interested in within
inetcorp.adm and it works just fine on IE 6.

Darren

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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274846
An administrator must also combine GPOs, an organizational unit, a user,
or a computer by implementing both a Preference mode and a MAINTENANCE
MODE GPO.

I don't understand this comment in the article.

Does anyone have any insight?

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For IE

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For IE or some other app?

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How can you configure "Check for newer versions of stored pages" to
Automatically through Group Policy?

Justin A. Salandra, MCSE
Senior Network Engineer
Catholic Healthcare System
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