Intrusion detection and prevention are two different things in my
experience.  IDS is used to detect the intrusion.  Prevention is a process
lifecycle all it's own.  

If you have the opportunity to have something that does both with a single
code-base that would be a good thing IMHO.  AV is always going to be latent
in it's ability to protect.  That's the nature.  It's one of the reasons
that AV products are starting to come with personal firewalls which help to
prevent outbound comm as well as inbound comm from occuring.  


Still comes down to user education and proper tuning no matter what they
sell you. These are just one more tool to help you enforce those policies
and reinforce the education.

My 2 cents (USD) anyway. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:06 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: intrusion prevention

my company is looking at getting cisco security agent for intrusion
prevention. Personally, at $60,000, I think its a bit much.
does anyone have any cheap intrusion prevention software they use out there?
or can you lockdown your desktops enough via GPO's and good AV?

we get alot of bots lately on our network. these bots infect fully patched
boxes and start making outbound requests on ports 445 and 6667 flooding our
network to a crawl and sometimes even DOSing our firewall.
as i've said, they even infect patched pc's with fully updated AV
defs(Symantec corporate 9.0).
the attraction to cisco is that(according to cisco marketing..), an client
agent is installed which will stop the action of any unauthorized app or
service from running and alert an admin.
still, i think there's got to be a cheaper way to stop this stuff.
any ideas(or personal experience with cisco agent)?
thanks
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