Travis,

Currently, the only solution that is available from Microsoft is a nascent
and very hard to implement technology that is focused on Remote Access and
VPN for your users and clients from home and in the field.  ISA Server 2004
bolsters that further, but is still not the complete package that we're
looking for.  But, make no mistake - there are solutions available for
Remote Access today - but not as complete as what you want.

To get to where we really want to be will/is requiring a heavy dose of
re-write in specific functionality of key infrastructure pieces - namely,
IAS (RADIUS) and DHCP.  These pieces were deemed to critical to do a rewrite
in the timeframe that might have made them available in the Windows Server
2003 Refresh build - commonly referred to as 'R2'.  The Network Access
Protection (NAP) technology was pushed back to the Longhorn release and will
be available then. However, the upside to this (and IMHO, the real reason
that it was pushed back) is the joining of forces with Cisco to provide an
even higher level of functionality IF one has Longhorn/Windows Server 2007
(or whatever the bloody hell it will be called) and Cisco NAC.

What you will get (at least as it is commonly and publicly available now) is
the ability to toss new connections into a 'quarantined' area, check them
against a known set of requirements (think policies) for up-to-dateness on
patches, virus scanning, what have you, and then allow them to connect to
the internal network.  This would happen each time this system would leave
your 'trusted' network and came back to attach to that trusted network
again.

-rtk



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I have looked at 2003 but at this point the product seems to be focused on
remote access. I would need a RRAS server, etc. I could do that and it may
be the easiest solution but I am looking. If I am missing something let me
know. I agree we will probably want to do more checks once we have the basic
check in place.

Thanks!

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Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:59 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT Network Quarentine Products

Have you looked at what Windows 2003 Server can offer in this scenario?
I mean, since you're already Active Directory and all.  

I think you'll likely want to take a look at checking for the updated pieces
as well, but only after you've implemented.  Don't discount that portion
when looking as it's a natural follow-on later IMHO.


Al 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:32 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT Network Quarentine Products

We are looking at network quarentine products and I was wondering what
others are doing. We can't do Cisco's Nac since all our switches are not
Cisco. We are looking at a product from StillSecure called Safe Access.
Has anyone else looked at this product? Can anyone recommend a particular
product? 

Some of our requirements are as follows:

*       
        The focus is on internal machines not remote access. People coming
into conference rooms, people bringing in personal machines, etc.
*       
        I am not as focused on if someone doesn't have the latest patch or
av definition as much as I want to keep machines that aren't part of our
domain in an Internet only vlan. These machines could come online anywhere
so I can't just separate the conference rooms.
*       
        We need a way to allow a person access to the LAN if they need it
but not initially.

I have thought about IPSEC authentication on the servers but that could be
messy to implement. I am also looking into 802.1x machine authentication via
Active Directory but I am not sure how easy it would be to grant visitors
access when they need it. 

Ideas?

Thanks and Happy Holidays!

Holland + Knight 
  
Travis Abrams 

Systems Engineer
 
Holland & Knight LLP 
  



 
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