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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
Sent: Thu 2/3/2005 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem


I would concur but say use ethereal. Much easier generally to read the traces. 
 
  joe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem



Mark-

 

If you put the problem computer, and your computer on a hub (not a switch), and 
use the version of netmon included with SMS, then you can run the trace. To 
make things easier, I'd set a filter in Netmon to only capture traffic to/from 
the problem host. 

 

Thanks.

 

--Brian Desmond

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abbiss, Mark
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem

 

How can I do a network trace whilst the computer is booting up ? When I have 
logged on as normal user the share and files are fully accessible. I looked at 
my bootup log (userenv.log) and can see that the GPO is called. But I just 
don't know what could prevent my startup script accessing the network share.

 

Are there any other GPO settings that may be set in another GPO that could be 
blocking network accessing during the bootup ?

 

As I say, using the batch after logging on causes absolutely no problems.

 

This is really frustrating !!

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
        Sent: Montag, 31. Januar 2005 17:57
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem

        Have you done a network trace yet? If you are getting an access denied, 
you will see it in the trace.

         

          joe

         

        
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        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abbiss, 
Mark
        Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:09 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem

        Just to follow up on this problem, I would like to clarify my current 
situation :

         

        I have now determined the script is actually running during startup. 
The problem however remains that I am not able to run the executable from the 
network share location. Everything works fine if I re-code the batch command 
and put the EXE locally on the computer. But using UNC addresses in the batch 
does not work.

         

        On the network share and all sub-folders I have ensured that "Domain 
Computer" accounts have full access.

         

        If I log on to the computer with a normal domain user account and then 
run the batch file that is coded with UNC references, the whole process works 
wonderfully.

         

        So where can I look to see what has failed when I configure the script 
to run during startup and the batch file is using UNC paths ? I have looked in 
the standard places (event viewer) but dont see any error messages.

         

        Many thanks

         

         

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Rocky Habeeb
                Sent: Freitag, 28. Januar 2005 17:47
                To: [email protected]
                Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem

                Put it in SYSVOL

                 

                RH

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                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Robert Rutherford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of Robert Rutherford
                        Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:31 AM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem

                        the local computer's system account does process the 
script but here it looks like it doesnt have permissions to read the script on 
the 'servers' share 

                        
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                        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rocky Habeeb
                        Sent: Fri 28/01/2005 16:26
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem

                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Local System 
account have full
                        control of the entire boot operation?  And isn't it 
responsible to process
                        the complete range of operations including network 
authentication and domain
                        based GPO processing?  And if not who is?  And if so, 
doesn't that mean >it<
                        should be processing this script?
                        
                        Rocky
                        
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                        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Wilkinson
                        Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:58 AM
                        To: [email protected]
                        Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem
                        
                        
                        I *think* that you do actually have network access at 
the point that
                        computer startup scripts run.  However, you'll have a 
security issue
                        because the local system account doesn't have access to 
your sever
                        share.  You could add each machine account to that 
share.  If one of
                        your computers is named Bob, add Bob$  to the ACL's of 
the share.  You
                        have to click on the "object types" button and select 
computers in the
                        window where you add the computer account.  You could 
also add "Domain
                        Computers" if you want all computers to be able to 
access the share with
                        the local system account.
                        
                        I've never tried this myself, so I'm not sure if this 
will work.
                        
                        
                        Paul Wilkinson
                        865-974-0649
                        2422 Dunford Hall
                        OIT Lab Services
                        University of TN, Knoxville
                        
                        
                        
                        Mark Abbiss wrote:
                        
                        > I think this is it in a nutshell. When I put 
everything locally on the
                        > machine the script ran and created the report.
                        >
                        > As you say, I have no network connectivity when in 
the startup phase.
                        >
                        > Or is there a workaround ?
                        >
                        > Thanks for all the input
                        >
                        >
                        > ----Original Message Follows----
                        > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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                        > To: [email protected]
                        > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD startup scripts problem
                        > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:05:12 -0600
                        >
                        > Hi Mark...
                        >
                        > I believe it's running at system level on startup, 
and i believe
                        > system has
                        > no network rights.
                        >
                        > John
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
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                        > I have tried everything I know but I just cannot make 
a script run at
                        > computer start up. I have successfully got it working 
on a user basis at
                        > logon but assigning it to a computer is just not 
working.
                        >
                        > Here is what I have done, please can someone let me 
know if I have I
                        > missed
                        >
                        > something completely obvious ?!
                        >
                        > 1. Wrote a very simple batch file. Contents of batch 
is :
                        >              \\server01\analysepc.exe /output 
\\server01\output
                        >
                        > 2. Created the necessary share on SERVER01
                        > 3. Created a new domain security group and added the 
PC object into that
                        > group
                        > 4. Made sure that the new group had full rights on 
the new share and
                        > "output" directory
                        > 5. Created the GPO to run the batch file from the 
Computer Config section
                        > of
                        > the GPO. Also disabled the User Config processing 
section.
                        > 6. Linked the GPO to the OU where my PC object is held
                        > 7. Set the filtering to apply the GPO only to the new 
security group.
                        >
                        > Made sure everything was replicated and then started 
the computer. But
                        > the
                        > script does not work ! I have checked with gpresult 
that the policy is
                        > being
                        > applied and it is. If I try the command from the 
batch when I have logged
                        > on, it works !
                        >
                        > What might I be missing ?
                        >
                        > Many thanks
                        >
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