I am leaning towards the symptoms all point to caching and time outs
resolving some non-Ad records on the internet.  One would think that
clearing the cache should fix that tho.  Any one have any idea if clearing
DNS cache will leave non-existent records still being cached as
non-existent on that DNS server?  I would not think so but I have seen
stranger things.


James R. Day
Active Directory Core Team
Office of the Chief Information Officer
National Park Service
(202) 354-1464 (direct)
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Records are all there, and the NetLogon restart does nothing as well.

What I have ended up doing is running a simple scheduled batch file at
3:00-4:00  AM everyday to restart DNS on the DC's.

It has definatley reduced the number of incidents, but the odd one still
pops up.

E
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 From: Gilbert, Daniel L Mr ANOSC/FCBS
 To: '[email protected]'
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:32 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS resoltuion Issue

 Is the record for the DCs at the site still vaild?  It almost sounds like
 the record is expiring and the DNS servers will not resolve it.

 Does net stop netlogon and then net start netlogon solve the problems?

 Dan

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 From: Ertug Gurhan
 To: [email protected]
 Sent: 2/8/2005 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] DNS resoltuion Issue

 Thanks James, thought of that route, but got some resistance, may have
 to push for it again.

 As for flushing the cache, it does not solve the issue, seems as though
 a service restart is the only way to go oddly enough??

 Cheers

 E

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 Hi Ertug

 Have you tried clearing the cache on the Domain controller DNS and see
 if
 it works then?

 Also, you may want to set up forwarders on your DCs to point at your ISP
 DNS servers - chances are they have heavy DNS caches going and will be
 able
 to resolve external addresses much quicker then using root hings - which
 may be timing out causing your DC to cache Domain Not Found for that
 query
 in its DNS cache.

 Regards;

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 Guys, have been having a sporadic issue, on my network, both when it was
 a
 2K Domain and now since the upgrade to 2K3.

 Basic Config is: 7 sites - DC - GC - DNS server in each site - WINS in
 each
 site etc. All DC's are 2K3 AD integrated DNS.

 DC's are configured to use internal addresses for DNS.

 >From time to time, we have issues resolving a domain name, the name is
 not
 the same one every time, for example today it was.


 http://www.registrefoncier.gouv.qc.ca/
 <http://www.registrefoncier.gouv.qc.ca/>


 No clients are able to browse to this site, (site not found) my only fix
 so
 far is to restart the DNS service on the DC for the site having the
 issue,
 and away goes the problem.


 If a client statically enters the external ISP address for DNS
 resolution,
 it works.

 No forwarders specified in DNS.


 It is not client/os specific, mix of NT4 - 2K and XP


 Anyone seen this before?


 Thank you


 Ertug









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