I'm still here :) 

Regarding:

"
If you are running Windows Server 2003, it *may* not allow non-domain 
members to sync with it out of the box.    
"

NTP is not a secure protocol. You can sync non-domain joined severs with
a DC. 

SNTP and NTP are exactly the same network packet. The only difference is
how the packets are processed. So you can sync a NTP client against SNTP
and vice versus. Additionally the Windows OS version won't matter here
(well, at least 2000 vs 2003 vs XP).

Getting a Unix NTP client syncing with a 2000 forest should work just
fine. You may have to turn off any add-on NTP security on the Unix
client. 



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Creamer, Mark
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:10 PM
To: Michael Wallendahl; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] W32Time and *nix

Sheesh, now someone with Win2K that does work!! :-) My domain is Win2000
also Mike. Now I'm just
confused again. W32Time wizard Nathan - are you still monitoring this
list?

<mc>

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wallendahl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 5:02 PM
To: Creamer, Mark
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] W32Time and *nix

Hi Mark:

What version of Windows Server are you running?

I have a Windows 2000 AD at work.  I successfully synchronize several 
non-windows devices against my DC's without a problem.  You can 
synchronize against any DC in your network (no need to specifiy a 
particular DC).  A neat trick is to just sync against your AD domain 
name as that name resolves to a list of all of your DC's.  That way if 
you ever change a DC's name you won't have to reconfigure all your 
timesync configs.

My FreeBSD 5.3 server synchronizes against my DC just fine.  The 
configuration file /etc/ntp.conf has the following two lines in it:

    server domain.com
    driftfile /var/db/ntp.drift

My Windows 98 machines sync using a freeware utility called
"Automachron".

If you are running Windows Server 2003, it *may* not allow non-domain 
members to sync with it out of the box.    I can't find anything on 
google right now.  I just tested against my test 2003 server at home and

it did allow a non-domain member to sync with it but I don't know if 
I've changed anything on it since building it.

Best bet would be to try and run Automachron on your own workstation 
against a DC and see if it reports any errors that you can google on.

Do you have a firewall or router between you and your DC's that is 
filtering NTP ports? 

Good luck!  Let me know what you find out!

-Mike

Creamer, Mark wrote:

>Folks, I'd like to throw this back out for comments if I can. A while
back I asked about using our
>current W32Time server, the forest root AD box, as the authoritative
time server for the non-Windows
>clients on our network. I haven't had any luck getting this to work. If
I remember correctly, W32Time
>is a derivation of the NTP protocol, (is it SNTP maybe??). Anyway,
nothing I've tried enables the
>Linux and Unix boxes to sync with this server. One article I read said
it will not work, but you
>obviously can't rely on everything posted on the net :-)
>
>Am I missing something, or do I need to maybe look at a 3rd party
solution to handle all of the time
>services? What are some of you using for this situation? Thanks!
>
>Mark Creamer
>
>  
>


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