There is a windows port of the standard NTP code available at
http://www.five-ten-sg.com/
And http://norloff.org/ntp/

I used the former on many servers back in the nt4 days with no problems.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time sync on non-domain W2K server?


Ah. There we go. The w32tm -once showed a sync. Now the next question
is: will the standalone server automatically sync with the listed time
source or will I have to perform manual/scripted syncs? I know it's
automatic within an AD structure, but what I've been reading doesn't
address non-domain scenarios... Thanks much!

**********************
Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
**********************
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Free
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Time sync on non-domain W2K server?
> 
> When you run Net Time \\somemachine /set you are using the old LanMan 
> NetTOD api to locate an authoritative time source which doesn't work 
> because you aren't in the domain and you have already told the box to 
> use SNTP with the /setsntp arg.
> 
> You want to use w32tm to test the SNTP function. Stop W32Time service 
> and try w32tm -once and observe the console output. The arguments have

> changed in 2003 and XP and I don't have a W2K box handy but w32tm /? 
> will give you all the args.
> 
> It is confusing because you can use Net Time with the /setsntp or 
> /querysntp but all you are doing there is making the registry setting 
> or reading it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:45:42 -0800, Charlie Kaiser 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doesn't work. "System error 5 has occurred. Access is denied." The 
> > Cisco servers are not in the domain, and the DCs won't allow 
> > communications from outside. If I do a runas with domain 
> > credentials, I can make it
> work, but I was
> > hoping for a more elegant solution. I don't like doing
> runas with domain
> > pwds in a file somewhere. It's my biggest beef with runas... If I 
> > try to do the same to the IP address of our switch, it says "network

> > path not found". You'd think there would be a way to allow a 
> > stand-alone
> server to synch
> > with an external time source...
> > 
> > **********************
> > Charlie Kaiser
> > MCSE, CCNA
> > Systems Engineer
> > Essex Credit / Brickwalk
> > 510 595 5083
> > **********************
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Al Garrett
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:08 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time sync on non-domain W2K server?
> > >
> > > Seems to me, if the Cisco servers can talk to the DC's via TCP/IP,

> > > then you should be able to do a simple
> > >
> > > NET TIME \\<DCname> /SET /YES
> > >
> > > NET TIME \\<DCipaddress> .....
> > >
> > > Make a batch file or run an AT job, anything that syncs them 
> > > periodically.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:53 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Time sync on non-domain W2K server?
> > >
> > >
> > > Interesting...Charlie's message just popped up in my
> inbox as well.
> > > Looks like time sync is a current hot topic. Eagerly
> awaiting thoughts
> > > from the group.
> > >
> > > <mc>
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie 
> > > Kaiser
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 1:23 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] Time sync on non-domain W2K server?
> > >
> > > I have a W2K3 AD domain. Gets its time synch from our
> Cisco switch,
> > > which gets time from outside. Usually works OK; hiccups once in a 
> > > while; no big deal. I've run into an interesting problem, though. 
> > > We have Cisco
> > > VoIP phones, which display the time on the screen. A user 
> complained
> > > because the time was about 6 minutes different between the phone 
> > > and her PC. I started looking into it, took care of a few things, 
> > > but came across something I can't resolve. Our Cisco Call Managers
> (W2K servers
> > > running Cisco call-handling apps) are not members of the
> domain. Cisco
> > > documentation says they should be stand-alone servers. I try and 
> > > use net time /setsntp:switchIPaddress or net time 
> > > /setsntp:PDCEname. Either one
> > > works, but when I do a net time /set, it fails with "Could
> > > not locate a
> > > time-server". Q243574 explains that only the PDCe can so 
> an external
> > > synch. So how do we get a stand-alone machine to set the time? 
> > > It's kind of important, because the phones get their time display
> from the Call
> > > Managers' OS time. Any ideas? Thanks!
> > >
> > > **********************
> > > Charlie Kaiser
> > > MCSE, CCNA
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> > > Essex Credit / Brickwalk
> > > 510 595 5083
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