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Hi Neil,
 
I understand your concern that unexpectedly updating the Production ADM files "sounds like a bad idea", but it really isn't that dangerous. The ADM template doesn't change the policy at all. It only changes what you see in Active Directory Users & Computers. So even if Microsoft does stuff up the new template and make it "non backward compatible" the worst is that it will display wrong in ADUC. Of course you have to be careful when you change policies that you understand what the ADM template is now doing.... but you would always test it comprehensively before releasing it anyway.....
 
You mention that you were bitten before. I suspect that this was the XP update that caused an error message when you viewed the policy in ADUC under Windows 2K. As I say, microsoft stuffed up, but it didn't hurt your users, just the users of ADUC.
 
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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:12 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Updating ADM files - best practices

That made me chuckle - you advise that I give up the one setting which was the sole reason for posing the question :)
 
I am not prepared to allow ADMs to be auto updated - this is too risky in a large, global environment. XP SP2 has just been released with its own new ADM files. I don't want the first admin who uses SP2 to inadvertently update the ADMs - that update needs to be done in a controlled manner, IMHO.
 
I've been bitten by this issue before and want to protect myself from it occurring again.
 
I'll test the 'copy files to SYSVOL and allow to replicate' route.
 
thanks,
neil
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Sent: 18 February 2005 04:35
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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Updating ADM files - best practices

Neil,
 
Not sure if it is best practice, but what I do is:-
 
1. Leave on the Auto upgrade of ADM files. We assume that Microsoft always adds to ADM files, never changes existing keys.
 
2. Always use a different ADM file for your modifications. Never change the microsoft ones.
 
3. Leave the Domain GPO alone for security settings and  password policy etc. Create another GPO for the "non standard" stuff.  (Note there was a long discussion on this very point 6 months ago and I think the general conclusion was that there wasn't a lot of technical reasons for doing so, just easier to understand what was going on)
 
4. I also create a GPO applied to a Test OU and then link it across when it is fully tested. I feel this is just as safe (or maybe safer) than doing it in a different domain then importing it. Admittedly, if you are testing complex changes were multiple policies interact, a separate domain is good since the policies will apply in exactly the same order as your final implementation.
 
Alan C 
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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Updating ADM files - best practices

Scenario:
W2k DCs and multiple w2k domains
I plan to implement and enable the GPO setting 'turn off automatic update of ADMs' in the default domain GPO as part of the upgrade from w2k DCs and domains to w2k3 DCs and domains. [For obvious reasons, I hope]

Issue:
This new setting requires an updated system.adm. Naturally I could place this one setting in a new GPO (in a test env) and after testing, transport the whole GPO (incl ADMs) using GPMCs backup/restore feature. However, I would rather simply update the ADM file(s) and then make the change to the def domain GPO.

Question:
What is the preferred method for updating ADM files?
I don't see any reason why I can't just copy a new system.adm into SYSVOL, wait for replication to finish and then change the def domain GPO. Is this logic flawed in any way?

Thanks in advance,
neil


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