Hi Guido,

Also playing around with Novell? ;-) 

In the environment we're in we have an NT4 domain with Windows 9x/NT clients
and we have a Novell NDS. All users are in as well as the domain as the NDS.
Primary authentication is the NDS followed by the NT4 domain. Important part
in this is that passwords in the domain and the NDS match because when you
logon to NOvell you'll automatically logon to the domain.

Users get their loginscript from the NDS and because we are moving data from
Novell to windows we needed to introduce a WIndows loginscript soo that
drive mappings could be created. In Novell it is not possible to create a
mapping to a Windows resource in a domain. Why? Because at the moment the
Novell loginscript runs the user still is not authenticated by the domain
and when the mapping is created the user will be asked to authenticate.

What did we do? 
In our NT4 domain we introduced a LOGON.BAT that starts a KIXTART script
(both of course in the NETLOGON share) and each user account got the
LOGON.BAT in their loginscript attribute. So what happens when a user logs
on by provided their username and password in the Novell logon screen? The
NDS loginscript runs and AFTER it is finished the WIndows loginscript kicks
in and runs and does whatever it needs to do. This is/was for us the way to
migrate data and drive-mappings step-by-step from Novell to Windows.

The novell-client was installed in the following way: 
* Custom install 
* No additional products 
* NETWORK PROTOCOL: Only IPX! (don't install TCP/IP from the Novell
client!!!)(use the default OS TCP/IP) 
* Use with NDS 
* Default settings used 
* Bindings are for file and print sharing: first IPX and second TCP/IP
(halfway this could be changed around) 
* Bindings are for client for MS networks: first IPX and second TCP/IP
(although it should be TCP/IP first and second nothing selected. we never
changed it because it was for a short time and the old setting worked OK)

* Bindings are for novell client: first IPX and second nothing selected 

I tested the same situation as above in VMWARE but using the following
configuration: 
* Novell NDS 
* W2K3 AD domain 
* WXP client (don't have NT4 WRK installed now) with and without the novell
client (4.9 SP2 english) 
* NDS loginscript 
* Netlogon loginscript in AD domain (LOGON.CMD with a command to create a
drive mapping W:) 
* GPO loginscript in AD domain (LOGON.VBS with a command to create a drive
mapping V:) 
* User account configured with NDS loginscript and Windows loginscript 

Without the novell client: NETLOGON loginscript and GPO loginscript runs OK 
With the novell client: NDS loginscript runs OK and after that NETLOGON
loginscript and GPO loginscript runs OK 

I did not test this with a NT4 workstation but I assume there will little
difference. However this worked with W95/W98/WNT at our customer in a NT4
domain and the NDS.

By the way just for your info: I think the profile location for users is
configured in the NDS (maybe the same as the homedir). There's no need to
configure a profile location in the user object because at login only one
profile will loaded and that will be the profile configured in directory
that is configured as primary for logon



Hope this helps 
Cheers 
Jorge


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 2/23/2005 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Issues with NT4 + Novell Client and AD

thanks Gil - I'm right there with you (the "I don't miss it" part...).
I'm pretty sure this is client related, but it never hurts to check with
others ;-)
 
/Guido

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Issues with NT4 + Novell Client and AD


Its been so long since I've worked with the Netware client... boy I
don't miss it :)
 
I've checked with our support and QA people and it doesn't ring a bell
with anyone.
 
-gil

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Guido
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Issues with NT4 + Novell Client and AD


let's see if anybody here ever came accross this issue - I can't find
anything on it: a company is using NT4 workstations with a Novell Client
(v4.9) and these are being migrated to AD.  The workstations with the
Novell Client  have issues running the Logon-Script for the users in AD
(if authenticating to Novell, the Novell scripts runs fine). 
 
We've done various tests to determine the cause and it comes down the
Novell Client itself. The logon script runs fine on the same NT4 box, if
the Novell Client is _not_ installed.  MS Novell Client also doesn't
have this issue - it's just the "original" Novell client...
 
Anybody have an idea why this doesn't work?  I believe it's something
specific to the client (a few other things are out of the ordinary as
well), but I'm open for any hints to check out.
 
 
Thanks
/Guido

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