If they were both on the table as training ops, I wouldn't
even have to think about it, DEC would win. However I think DEC is more concept
based than a straight troubleshooting class and I prefer concepts to exact
steps to follow. The whole teach to fish versus give a fish
thought.
Also, you will probably have access to more MS people and
specifically more influential MS people at DEC than you will in a
troubleshooting class. Even if the class is from MS, the chances are it will be
an external MCT teaching the class versus an MS person who can really get
feedback up to the product teams if you have some. Even if it is a PSS person
giving the training, it seems only a few of them can or will feedback to the dev
team. At DEC, you have the PMs of the product teams sitting next
to you at the bar drinking beers with you. BTW, this isn't a slam on MCTs, I
actually know at least one or two amazing MCTs that do training classes for MS
like that. However at least half of them will be at DEC too...
As Al mentioned, there is a lot of networking plus you get
a very wide range of opinions on how things should be done which is very helpful
because otherwise you can get stuck in the mode of solving your issues only with
experience you directly have. DEC helps by exposing you to lots of real people
running real environments willing to talk about their issues they have worked
on.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 1:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
If I could make a suggestion?
Personally, I think DEC would be a better use of
time. Not that a troubleshooting class wouldn't be good, but because the
DEC will offer something more valuable than what you can otherwise read about:
professional contacts. Those same contacts will help you troubleshoot and
come up with ideas far past what you'll get from a troubleshooting class.
Mechanics of troubleshooting at the class vs. people that really understand it
and can be more helpful when things don't fit a mold at DEC.
Outside of that, I would say that either could be of
value.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Hi
all,
Hope you don't mind these...
My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the
conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have
us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft]
instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails,
we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us
to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and
if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I
don't know exactly *what* that is).
Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can
honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high
overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would
be a good candidate to attend.
I
see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any
brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance!
-DaveC
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