Whoa, that's a big, big, big deployement! Thanks for taking the time to answer 
the question. So far the last 4 years of AD experience hasn't taught me as much 
as I did by subscribing to this list a year ago. I truly appreciate getting the 
point of view from some fine folks who have experience in HUGE environment. 

Unfortunatly, biggest environment I ever had my hands on to was a 300 user one 
with roughly 3 forests and a few sites here and there.

Once again, thanks to you joe, Phil, Daniel, Hunter, Mark and Gil (hope I 
didn't forget anyone! <g>) for taking the time to discuss this.

Truly appreciated!

Francis 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilbert, Daniel 
L Mr ANOSC/FCBS
Sent: 25 f�vrier 2005 15:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....

Who are you calling "good corporate citizen"?

We only have three (3) people with EA rights for an Enterprise with over 
300,000 user accounts and 200 plus DCs.

Schema Admins is empty.  Have to make a concentrated effort to populate that 
group.  Saves us from Schema SNAFUs.

So far (3 years) this plan has worked for us.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....

I wouldn't give those rights to a group... Just one or two people in the group, 
and only after proper vetting. Vetting would include the usual background 
checks and "good corporate citizen"-type evaluations, as well as AD technical 
knowledge.

Would you want them fixing an AD disaster in the middle of the night while 
you're asleep? Will they do the right thing, even when you're not looking? It 
really comes down to a matter of trust.

-gil

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....

What do you do when you have an AD support group than need access to Enterprise 
Admin privs if you only have one Enterprise Admin? I know I wouldn't want to be 
the only guy with those privs in the middle of the night on a weekend when I'm 
not on call ;)

Phil 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francis Ouellet
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 3:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....

 " Then you have your actual Enterprise Admins and that should be a small 
group, maybe 2-5 people depending on your size (I worked on a team of 3 people 
and supervisor for a 250,000 user deployment). "
 
So I'm assuming that you have more than 1 Enterprise admin in your root domain? 
Isn't that agains't all the white papers out there stating that you shouldn't 
have more than one ent. admin. in your forest and all other admins should be 
domain admins in their own respective domain? Or did you use enterprise admin 
as a generic term?
 
Thanks,
Francis 
 
 
 
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francis Ouellet
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 1:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Some thoughts on securing sensitive accounts....


Hi folks,
 
I'm was thinking the other day of the best way to secure schema and enterprise 
admin accounts. What would you do if you had "carte blanche"
to secure sensitive accounts in an enterprise directory?
 
First things that came to mind were using mandatory smart cards for SA and EA 
accounts kept in a safe where only designated employes knew the pins....Any 
other thoughts?
 
Thanks!
Francis Ouellet 
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