For what you're talking about, a workstation class (heck a laptop for many implementations would do it) is likely able to do what you need and provides far less risk than movnig an Exchange server.
Either way, good luck, Al -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing I would like to install an smtp server in the colo, but we do not have any spare servers and the other servers at the colo are mission-critical, so we really don't want to mess with them. I thank everyone for all the help, Dan ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 12:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing OK, so if you have a GC/DC in the same location, then you are good to go. Just ensure that the Exchange server is using this GC/DC for its operations. Bring down your TTL beforehand. Also do the MX switch maybe 2 days before the power outage to verify the colo Exchange is happy and that it is indeed receiving and routing. If I were you, though, I'd take the easy way out and do what has been suggested several times here - let a plain vanilla SMTP server do the storing for you during this outage. Deji ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing The colo site has a DC that is a GC. And once we move the mail server to the colo, we will re-register its DNS records and clear internal DNS server caches. This will be done 3-days in advance, so hopefully all client resolver caches should have timed out by then, right? But anyway, all we are concerned with is the server's ability to receive mail from the outside, since most of our workstations are located in the building that will have the power outage. Dan ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 5:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing Yes and no. The problem is moving an Exchange server along with the supporting requirements such as DC/GC/DNS/(AD in general). Outside of that, it would probably work with those gotchas and the DNS TTL issues to contend with. It's just that it's simpler to prop up a simple MTA that will just queue the mail until your Exchange servers come back online to take delivery. W2K server would work just fine (note: make the timeout of delivery longer than the default to account for your outage). Al ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing The thing is that the server we are planning to move is currently idle, for all intents and purposes, but Exchange is installed and working on it. Plus, the server uses a private IP and has a NAT mapping to a public IP. So shouldn't we just have to change the NAT mapping and add the MX record to our public zone file; then, for internal, just re-register the DNS records with the new IP? I did not mention this in my previous message, but we are not concerned with users being able to access their e-mail during this outage, we would just like to make sure the mail sent during this time period is eventually delivered. To deliver these few requirements, will the plan work? Also, we do not have any W2k3 servers. Dan ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing Is cutting off your arm a way to get rid of a hangnail? Sure, but it's overmuch. Doing what you want, properly, is pretty involved - you've gotta get DNS, GC, AD, Exchange, etc. all happy at the remote location - not just SMTP. Just stick a standalone W2K3 server with the SMTP service installed at the remote location if you REALLY want to put a server somewhere else. Or pay some service provider to do your secondary MX/store-and-forward for you. Worst case, you're looking at less than $100 for a month's service. ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing I am not sure about that with our ISP. But will the procedures I suggested work? Dan ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 3:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing You don't need to move an Exchange server you just need to have some company act as a secondary MX (store and forward mail services) for the domain of interest. PROBABLY your bandwidth provider will do this for you, for free. ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange Routing I have a question about Exchange routing. We have 2 Exchange 2000 servers at our main site, one that holds all the mailboxes and the other currently holds just a few mailboxes that aren't being used, but the server is up and working. Both servers are in the same routing and administrative groups. Both servers are in the data center of our main site. The problem is that this weekend, the power will be turned off in our building and our network will be unavailable as will user's mailboxes. We currently have no offsite data replication or Exchange DR strategy (though it's not for lack of trying/nagging by our department to upper management). So, as a temporary solution, our current plan is to move the second Ex server to one of our colo sites and add a lower-priority MX record for it to our public DNS zone. The thinking is that messages sent to our domain will be sent to the second server at the colo, and this server will cache all the messages until the main server is back up and mail can be delivered to it. And, since the mail was received, no senders should receive NDRs. Then, on Monday, when the power is back, all messages will be delivered to the main server. Is this plan going to work? If so, how long will the messages be cached by the second server? How many messages will it cache (until it fills the drive)? Are these options configurable? Does anyone see any gotchas or things to consider? Thank you very much. I am a novice when it comes to Exchange, but trying to change that by studying my MSPress 70-284 text. Besides, I usually do not like to make any major changes to our mail/AD infrastructure without consulting you guys first. _________________________ Daniel DeStefano List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
