Ahh, thank you very much (both of you).
Strange. Ad.org's site seems to noe be responding.
Here's the story.
As a personal hobby I run a a few domains.
I used the Gentoo Virtual Hosts setup. I'm currently writing my own but
that's besides the point.
It uses MySQL as a database.
I get curious and start poking around LDAP wondering if LDAP would be
better than MySQL.
I have a Windows 2003 AD at my place of employment, so I start poking
around to see some stuff and realize that any changes I make could break
things.
So, I'm going to setup a Linux and Windows 2k3 test lab at home to play
with it.
Now I know I should get books on both LDAP and AD. Since I have some
LDAP, I'll start looking at AD books.

I really don't know what career I want in life, so I'm currently poking
and stabbing thigns just to learn and see what I like.

I really appreicate your advice!

Kenny 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

Hey now... Don't forget about Alistair. He did that first edition
himself and did it well. :)

The Cat Book rocks. Actually I should get royalties for that one too, I
have made a bunch of people buy it and have bought and given away
multiple copies myself. I still have my first copy though it is quite
dog-eared and I put laminating plastic on the covers so they wouldn't
get too torn up. 

Here is the actual AD Org Books link -
http://www.activedir.org/Books.aspx , actually it would be kind of cool
if we could rate them. How about it Tony?
Have a couple of fields for each, number of people who have the book,
number of people who recommend it, number of people who don't recommend
it. 

I am surprised AD Developers Reference Library by Iseminger is on the
list.
That is a great book but wouldn't expect a lot of the list users to have
read it. I recall reading it back in like 2001 or so and getting a bit
scared at what a really pissed off AD programmer could pull off. 


  joe
 

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Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

Personally?  I like to think of AD as a GUI to Microsoft's
implementation of LDAP.  That simplifies a lot of things for me.
However, there is more to it than that and the books you ordered should
help in clarifying that.  

You don't need to know LDAP to make AD work, but it helps.  It's a great
help to me to understand the differences between Microsoft's AD and
Sun's implementation of LDAP or IBM's implementation or any of the
others for the basics.  

When you start getting into managing the directory and the objects in
the directory, Microsoft really differentiates itself with GPO's and the
multi-master replication and the tools to support the infrastructure.  

As you're looking at this, remember that name resolution is one of the
most important things you can deal with when making AD a solid
enterprise app. 

The book from O'Reilly sounds like Robbie's book.  I haven't read it,
but have heard good things about it (what can I say Robbie, I don't have
a budget for it :)  If it's not Robbie's book for AD, then it would be a
good idea to grab that one as well.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596004664/103-8355416-0173405

Sakari Kouti also has written a good book, called, "Inside Active
Directory"
that would be worth picking up. http://www.kouti.com/

You should be able to find some other information about books at
http://www.activedir.org 


Al
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny Mann
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Active Directory and LDAP

I don't understand LDAP and Active Directory as much as I should.
So, I've ordered 2 LDAP books (O'Reilly and another) to learn.
I'm curious as to how much LDAP and Active Directory have in common. Is
AD just a GUI for LDAP?
Perhaps there is a book everyone here recommends or will my LDAP books
hopefully cover enough so I could be able to feel my way around Active
Directory good enough?

Doing a search with the word 'book' gives a ton of irrelvent searches in
the archives. 
I saw one book but it's out of print.

Kenny Mann
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