I am a much bigger fan of either cleaning up the NT domains prior to
migration, or getting a list of current active users from the mainframe
and only migrating those users from the NT domains. In both those
situations you end up and only the active users in AD which I prefer to
do since I don't want to migrate junk from old domains into my newly
created and clean AD environment.

Not much help on your dirsync issues, but I have't worked with either so
I won't bother to comment on that part.

Phil 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LDAP dir syncproduct to AD

Good question. At this stage this is what I've been made aware of:
No RACF (phew)
LDAP Connector to mainframe - I haven't been told what version yet User
and Attribute sync to AD from the mainframe is the primary goal. The
business centres around mainframe existance. If you don't exist on the
mainframe - you don't exist. This means that user provisioning AND
identity currently happens there as a start. At this point there's a TON
of NT4 domains (around 600) that will be switched off. Users used to be
created automagically via a process from mainframe to NT 4 domains,
however users were never killed off the NT domains when they died on the
mainframe.

Going forward, this means that users will be synced from the mainframe
via LDAP - ergo the sync tool requirement to AD to a dump container.
Users from the NT domains will be merge migrated to a sepparate
container, and whatever is left behind will be investigated and killed.
Migration tools are in place to do this, that the easy bit. The unknown
entity is talking to a mainframe via LDAP with no knowledge at this
point of what flavour of LDAP it's talking.

The Imanami product looks really fine on "paper" - generic ldap
connectivity, attribute transformation, supports schema extensions, etc,
however I've never met anyone who's used it in anger. I'm trying to stay
away from a scripted solution, since object colision resolution,
attribute transformation, object matching, delta syncing, etc are pretty
standard in the tool world, without having to re-script the weel.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 08 March 2005 04:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LDAP dir syncproduct to AD

I think Murray brings up some good points.  What are your requirements
exactly?  

To differentiate between the products (or others) you'll need to
understand what the ultimate goal is and what you have to work with.
For example, is this a RACF sync?  Or LDAP or ??  What exactly needs to
sync?  Passwords?
Accounts? 

Questions like that should help to differentiate.

Al
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray Wall
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:45 AM
To: [email protected]; Nicolas Blank
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LDAP dir syncproduct to AD


Nic, we have implemented Simple Sync, for roughly about 12 connectors
and are pleased with the tool.  It is syncing roughly 30000 LDAP entries
between exchange 5.5, 2000 and 2003 organizations with the exchange 5.5
organization being the root forest.  In my mind, it would depend on your
needs, and if you require a more advanced 'meta' directory.  Simple Sync
is a FIFO sync utility not a download all the updates to a meta dir,
process them, then resync out (sounds like a description for msmail t1,
t2 sync processes!) We are very pleased with the product and the support
we get from them.   I have no experience with the Imanami product.  If
you are looking for a LDAP in, LDAP out with transposing, or what have
you, I would definitely recommend the Simple Sync.

Murray Wall
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Blank
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] LDAP dir syncproduct to AD

Hi all
Anyone ever have to choose between Simple Sync and  Imanami Directory
Transformation Manager ?
I'm talking to a mainframe via LDAP going to AD and on "paper" Imanami
looks the better choice.
Anyone have any recommendations either way?
I've seen simple sync mentioned at least once on this list and also know
it's maybe not the best product out there, even though it does the job
and am keen to get any feedback on anything else?

Thanks in advance for any feedback

Nic

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