Probably the only other way to manage that would be to change the GINA
(write a custom GINA) which is usually not manageable.  In this case, I
would have guessed that the lengthy leave of absence cases would be
manageable or at least acceptable.  

To recap what you have:
1) you've disabled the native notification
2) you send a message to the user letting them know their password is about
to expire in x days
3) you have a central password management tool product
4) exceptions such as lengthy absence are directed the helpdesk for further
action

It also seems that the user *could* change their password natively and then
have to change it at the central password tool.  That would be to grant them
access to the other non-AD controlled systems. That password change would
then flow back to AD, so they would have to log out and back in with the new
credentials but have the downside of changing the password twice. 

Outside of a different architecture for that type of solution (integration
with a single, most commonly used directory for example) or rewriting the
GINA on the desktops (what a PITA to manage), I would say process is the
only thing left to use that might help to better manage. 

Playing the odds, you would want to have a long password expiration time
with strong passwords and enough retry attempts to keep that number to a
manageable/acceptable level of helpdesk calls.  You may also want to
consider allowing the changes to process and policy to get the desired
result. 

My $0.04 anyway.   

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Password Expiration Prompt

We're running a similar product and are looking at what options are
available to us.  An email script is good, but hypothetically, a user could
come back from vacation or from maternity leave, not check their email and
still get the pop up box to change their password when they come back.

In our testing we found that you set the password to never expire, but
actually expire the account, they will get a prompt that their account has
expired when they try to log in, but need to contact their SA for
assistance, or something to that effect.  At that point, there is an escape
sequence that the user can do to get to the password management system,
answer some challenge questions, and then change their password.
This will also unexpire their account.  Or they would contact our help desk
for instructions.  We're still using a script to email notifications to the
user, but actually using the same script to expire the account instead of
the native GINA.

I know it sounds like a hassle, and probably a whole bunch of calls to the
help desk, but that appears to be the only way we can get them to use a
single point for their password management.

If anyone can think of a better way to do this, definitely let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Password Expiration Prompt

I've used this in that situation.  You can change it from the three days on
there to whatever you like and since it uses subtree search, you can use
either a specific OU or the entire domain directory if you want.  It is per
domain. 

The script will email a notification with a link to the web page vs.
doing a
popup (so email is important right?) You would also have to turn off the
notification in the domain to prevent the confusion.  

I use this script for users in a different forest than the one their
workstation is in.  

http://www.houseofqueues.com/CodeSamples/PassCheck.txt

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Password Expiration Prompt





      In our environment we use a product called Passport to synchronize
password changes across multiple accounts. Our users are aware of this
product and the procedures required for making a password change, however,
the Default Domain GPO specifies that the user will be notified to change
their password 5 days before expiration. When a user logs in and sees this
message they become confused and frustrated because they think this change
will apply to all accounts and passwords, which it does not. Is there a
script or setting I can change that will notify the user it is time for a
password change and take them directly to the Passport website to change
their password?

Thanks,
      Chris

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