LOL ... I had oodles of free time waiting for a ridiculously delayed call to
take place.

Re: the test environment, I'd agree that your suggestion would indeed work
with such a limited number of DCs but I find myself asking the question
"what exactly is the test forest for?" ... a) to learn how to circumvent
best-practice in test environments :) or b) to learn how to better structure
and implement a roughly comparable enterprise environment ... my responses
were based on the latter but I'm guessing you'd picked up on that. 

Seriously, your point is well taken and there are faster approaches than
that (some of which I've proven against production environments in order to
v. quickly recover from catastrophic failure) but since the default DNS
structure created by 2K3's DCpromo will suffice for a 2 DC, 2 domain test
forest (and larger), I (uh oh!) assumed that the poster's goal exceeded
merely that of a functioning end result.

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:26 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing DNS in Child Domain

hey Dean - I see you're on a DNS trip today ;-))  10 posts on this thread by
Dean - must be a record...

aren't we forgetting that this is a test-environment?  I'd just blow away
the child's DNS subzone on in the root DC's DNS config and then create a
delegation for the child.test.com zone for the child DC.  Then create the
child.test.com DNS zone on the child DC, point the DC to use itself as a DNS
server and then re-register all records on this server (restart netlogon). 

Agreed that the process would be slightly differnet for a "live"
environemnt with many other DNS records data in it.

/Guido

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Dienstag, 19. April 2005 17:57
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If only one record exists, you have encountered the known-bug I mentioned
earlier.  To resolve this issue, temporarily configure the forest root DNS
zone to allow both secure and insecure update, on the child DC, ensure its
preferred resolver still points to the root DC, run a command shell and
enter "ipconfig /registerdns".  Return to the root DC and refresh the zone
content, you should now see a second A record named after the child DC
itself, if so - reset the zone to secure updates.  

Up until now, your 2 DCs have not been replicating, to accelerate the
convergence time, copy and paste the following verbatim in a command shell
on each DC (requires Support Tools installed) -

1) ipconfig /flushdns
2) net stop netlogon & net start netlogon
3) for /l %a in (1,1,25) do repadmin /kcc & repadmin /syncall & repadmin
/syncall /P

NOTE - I DO NOT recommend the use of the 'for in do' loop above in a large
enterprise.

Run AD Sites and Services and verify that replication is now succeeding.

Do you still want to distribute your DNS namespace per your original post?

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet Singh
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:22 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing DNS in Child Domain

Hi,

Yes, your summary is absolutely correct. No I did not create any structure
manually; all were created automatically during first DC promotion.

Now when I see the A host record under child.test.com, there is only one
record 'same as parent'.

Thanks,
Manjeet

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I'm working on the premise that at present all DCs and members resolve
against a single DNS server running on the DC in the forest root that was
created during the promotion of the very first DC.  You've since promoted a
new DC and created a child domain named child.test.com.  This DC also
resolves against the DNS server running on the DC in the root domain.  

Is that summary accurate?
Have you altered the default configuration created by DCpromo in anyway or
did you create the current DNS structure manually?
Does the A record for the child DC exist, this is a known bug that would
cause anything we do from this point (excluding the use of BIND zone
files)
to fail -
        - expand the zone on the root DNS server
        - locate the entry 'child.test'com'
        - two A (host) records should exist, one named after the DC itself
the other, 'same as parent'

Once we have this information, the steps to distribute your DNS namespace
become relatively simple.

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet Singh
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing DNS in Child Domain

Hi,

I am using windows 2003 standard edition.

This might be the requirement when you have distributed domain model.
Say Root and child domain are in separate remote location. So reduce the
traffic I need to have separate DNS on my child domain controller.

So do I configure DNS on preinstall Child domain controller ?


Manjeet


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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 7:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Installing DNS in Child Domain

Windows offers no automated solution for this type of restructuring, the
premise being that any organization with a need for a more distributed DNS
infrastructure needs 1) the technical staffing sufficient to create it and
2) same said staffing to support it.

Before making any recommendations as to the direction you should take, can I
ask on what version/flavour of Windows you're building this lab environment?


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet Singh
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Installing DNS in Child Domain

Hi,

I have installed a root domain controller "test.com".
Then I have installed a child domain controller: child.test.com" with
primary DNS as test.com. So a zone child.test.com automatically added in my
test.com DNS.


I want to install a separate DNS for child domain, and want to set child as
primary DNS and root as secondary DNS.

To do that I Installed DNS service on my child domain controller.

So what is the best way to install the DNS on child domain? 

Do I do a ZONE transfer by delegation or some other easy process?


Thanks,
manjeet

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