I never talked to the guy from MS, so I don't know how that conversation went, 
though it did seem a little like "reboot to fix the problem" type solution.

Which brings me to another question- under what circumstances would a deleted 
object still show up as a valid object in GC's?

That was the problem they were having. it was claimed that OU's were deleted 
and that was never reflected in the GC, among other objects.
The only thing i can think of, is some admin said they were using movetree to 
move objects between domains.
I've never used movetree, but i'm aware of its limitations as to global and 
local groups as well that it can't move computer objects. I don't know if it 
spits out an error when you try these things, but that could've caused the 
issues.

thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:26 PM
To: Send - AD mailing list
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's


"Occupancy level" is an integer (controlled via the DC's registry) that
represents how much of the total-partial foreign domain content a newly
designated GC must have sourced before announcing itself as "ready".  Early
builds of Windows 2000 defaulted to 3 I believe, this was later adjusted to
6 where the 3 equates to the insane "a complete-partial replica of all
foreign domains in _same site_" and the 6 equates to the more heart-warming
"a complete-partial replica of all foreign domains".

Unchecking and rechecking the GC box only has an impact if the uncheck
action replicated out discreetly and reached the DC to whom it applied (keep
in mind that when you uncheck the box you are merely originating a write
against a replica of the config. NC which may or may not [most likely not]
be the DC to whom the change applies).  If the box is rechecked before it
reached that owning DC, it is impossible to state with any certainty as to
whether the target DC will begin the demotion process since it's dependent
upon the replication topology and its inherent end-to-end latency.

PS - With all due respect to the support technician that instructed you to
demote each GC in turn, wait a while and re-promote ... that wouldn't
guarantee a working end-result, there's a chance it will work and an equal
chance that it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how
the GCs re-sourced their content.

--
Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
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http://msetechnology.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:49 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is
"occupancy level".

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while
and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root
domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
> Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service 
> Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
> interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that 
> has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
> according to something known as the "occupancy level".
> 
> In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
> happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
> that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
> what you wanted to know.

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