I'm just fascinated by it. In fact the one time I did briefly meet RickD, I was thoroughly impressed by him. I think he's quite capable at whatever he decides to do and I'm sure that Microsoft offers opportunities to people from within that have not necessarily been there and done that but rather are otherwise a fit for the job. Seems to work better if you ask me.
We'd probably be better off to kill this thread before Tony gives one of us a thump for taking the list off track. Al -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 8:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All - OT (and drifting further away) Honestly, I found it a bit of a surprise as well. However, there must be something in his background or his talents that lend him to that end. -rtk -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All - OT (and drifting further away) Interesting that RickD is now in charge of services. I find that infinitely fascinating. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All - OT (and drifting further away) Interesting timing on this article - http://searchwin2000.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid1_gci1065731 ,00.html?track=NL-118&ad=513593 I see what you are saying with MS and the hardware and other networking components. If MS was truly serious in this area, they would have to be able to step a little more into those areas as well and I am sure really tick some people off. I know quite a few MCS guys though that have sat down and helped configure firewalls and UNIX DNS servers to make things work though too. I doubt it is anything MS taught them versus knowing it on their own. But then you always have that problem with consultants, it is what the consultant knows, not what the company has taught them. If you have to depend on what the consulting company teaches the consultant, admit you are screwed right up front. On the plus side, as long as that services/consulting group got a better voice into the MS product line[1], this could seriously help MS in the real world versus the theoretical best of all worlds world that a lot of stuff seems to be made for. joe [1] I would assume this would happen if this group became a solid consistent high paying revenue stream. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 2:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All - OT (and drifting further away) I, more than many, would really appreciate Microsoft building up its consulting ranks/headcount ;) Until then, I don't think they can be considered as a serious player in the consulting arena. I think they will never (by virtue of their culture) be able to be a consulting organization that deals with end to end consulting; they can't deal with hardware without really making other vendors/partners irate for example. Same goes for software that Microsoft doesn't make, networking equipment/OS, etc. Compuware? I suppose they could since they claim to deal with 90% of the fortunate 100. Question to ask is how they get on the top 5 list. Is it by revenue? Profits? Headcount? Did they make the list themselves? ?? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All I keep hearing rumours that MS is really going to be kicking its presence up in consulting and services by adding thousands (or tens of thousands) of analysts for it. Oh and I thought of another possible one though I don't know how big they are anymore... Compuware. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All Accenture? Compucom? CSC? I don't think MS would rank that high in the consulting arena. What's a Cv? Pardon my ignorance, but that has me puzzled. I mean, before Tony comes back online I'd like to know. :) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] All Unless you got clearance from Tony to post this prepare to be thumped. As an aside, who are the largest 5 IT specific companies now? IBM, HP, Dell??, MS, Lockheed, Unisys, ?? joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cooper Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] All Importance: High Dear All, I am currently conducting a search for one of the top 5 largest IT companies in the world. They are looking for a number of Architects of varying levels from Junior to Guru level. You will gain exposure to the worlds largest programmes and Technical environments. You should have excellent MS Environment experience, in particular Active Directory. The client has numerous regional offices across the UK so location not a problem. Salaries range from �40k to �105k base salary with up to 40% bonuses. Please email your Cv or contact me if of interest. 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