Hi Jorge, 

So going back to my original question does a NT4 box running the dsclient have 
the ability to find an LDAP server (or a DC) to get info from AD. ( It's 
obvious that 9x clients can not since they can not join a domain and NT 4 
systems can ).

Jose :-)

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Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:34 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Site/Subnet Management


>> however I just was not sure if it had the ability to query SRV records
looking for the nearest DC to the subnet that it is on

This is still NOT POSSIBLE in current implementations of AD to find a DC
according to the cost of the site links

To find an LDAP server (or a DC) to get info from AD:
* If a client does not know which AD site it belongs to (e.g. joining a
domain) it will query for:
_ldap._tcp.dc_msdcs.<domain>.<domain>

* If a client does know which AD site it belongs to it will query for:
_ldap._tcp.<site name>._sites.dc_msdcs.<domain>.<domain>

* If a client does know which AD site it belongs to it will query for:
_ldap._tcp.<site name>._sites.dc_msdcs.<domain>.<domain>
AND if those DCs are unavailable then it will query for:
_ldap._tcp.dc_msdcs.<domain>.<domain>

Cheers,
#JORGE#

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 19:10
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Site/Subnet Management

Hi Jorge, 

Good suggestion. I was thinking about suggesting that he use the dsclient (
I have never really worked with it ) however I just was not sure if it had
the ability to query SRV records looking for the nearest DC to the subnet
that it is on. 

Jose

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Or install the latest DSCLIENT for the 9x and NT systems!

QUOTE
############################
Site awareness - This includes the ability to log on to the domain
controller that is closest to the client in the network and the ability to
change passwords on any Windows 2000/2003-based domain controller, instead
of the primary domain controller (PDC). In order to benefit from this new
functionality the computer object where the Client extension is installed
must exist in a Windows 2000/2003 domain. 

Note: Active Directory Client for Windows NT4.0 does not change the NT4.0
WinLogon change password behavior. The WinLogon change password still
contacts the PDC. However, Active Directory Client extension provides
necessary APIs to change the password to any Windows 2000 based domain
controller.
############################

See http://www.petri.co.il/dsclient_for_win98_nt.htm for more! 

#JORGE#

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 18:31
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There you go, that is your problem. Your NT 4 systems and 9x systems are all
going across the wire to the PDC emulator for authentication. Upgrading your
clients to Windows 2000 or XP should solve your issue ( As long as your
sites are defined with the correct cost).

Jose Medeiros
MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT
Former Vice President NTEA
www.ntea.net
www.sfntug.org
www.tvnug.org


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No this is a 2000 Native forest (3xdomain) with all 2003 DCs.
 
clients contacting the domain are almost entirely NT class I think. Exactly
what hte story is on 9x is unclear to me though there are tens of thousnads
of them. Same with NT4 though less I think. 
 
--Brian Desmond
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Medeiros, Jose
Sent: Tue 5/10/2005 7:52 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Site/Subnet Management



Hi Brain,

I was at Robert Half International working on their deployment of 400 2003
AD controllers to their remote offices world wide a few monts back and have
not seen the problems that you have.

I am assuming that your locations currently run a NT 4 BDC and your Active
Directory domain is in mixed mode?
Have you created separate sites in AD and defined the cost for each site?

Can I also ask what type of clients ( Windows 98, NT4 2000, Mac, XP ) your
running?

Regards,

Jose Medeiros

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Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 5:44 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Site/Subnet Management


Hi all,

Wondering what strategies you all use for managing sites & subnets in your
AD environment. Mine is fluid in this regard. There are roughly 650 physical
locations with 2 subnets per. The number of locations is fluctual in terms
of add/drop.

Currently we have just a small handful of AD sites, and save for a couple
dozen subnets, they all go in one big happy site. We're moving towards
putting DCs at remote locations and thus they're going to start getting
their own sites.

The current system is fairly manual - I start seeing netlogon warnings about
# of no site connections, email the WAN guy and get his subnet/location
spreadsheet, and then i mangle it a bit into a CSV. I delete all the
existing subnets. Run my vbscript which recreates them all according to the
CSV. This is all well and good I guess but it's an annoying system.

Anybody got anything better?
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