Have you considered 802.1x with certificates on the authorized machines
?  XP supports it natively, and late model switches should support it.
You usually hear about it in the context of wireless, but it works in
wired networks too.  Just a thought.
Dave

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan DeStefano
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:59 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure DHCP


I thought about that, but I think it would quickly become cumbersome to
manage. Kind of defeats most of the purpose of DHCP.

Dan

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 10:48 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure DHCP

This would require some effort to configure and maintain, but what about
using DHCP reservations?  This will accomplish the goal of only allowing
approved PC's on your network.

-Andrew

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Secure DHCP

At the lower layers of the OSI stack, the only way I'm aware of to block
computers from getting an IP address is to use port-based authentication
if your network hardware supports it. As Al mentioned, quarantine
networks are becoming a more realistic solution, but don't address the
basics of DHCP. Using IPSec to ensure only trusted computers can get
access to resources is a decent solution as well; the rogue PC can get
an address, but cannot connect to anything except perhaps the internet.
Not simple to set up, though...

Hmmm. Maybe we can develop a power over ethernet solution. Run 220V AC
through the ethernet cables and put a high-pass filter on the legit
machines. Then, if someone plugs a rogue laptop into the network, the
laptop gets a little hot... :-)

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Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
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> I am wondering if there is any way to secure DHCP from assigning
> leases to PCs that are not authorized on the domain. I imagine that 
> this is not possible since, in order to authenticate, a PC needs an IP

> address.
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> The problem is that the other day we had a rogue PC plug into our
> network and, though probably coincidental, our browse list was messed 
> up afterwards. So I have been tasked with finding out if there is a 
> way to prevent unauthorized PCs from obtaining IP leases on our 
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