My suspicion is that Microsoft will not likely abandon the use of the key variables any time soon[1]. Many of their own applications and other server products rely on these variables, and they have communicated that the use of these variables is safe and protected.
Rick [1] However, Microsoft has also been known to make decisions that seemingly are counter to any real or perceived logic. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta Nathaniel V Contr NASIC/SCNA Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load I have come to find that our Engineers are actually the ones pushing for the WINNT directory so the legacy apps will continue to function, at least the ones that don't call a variable. The SMS/Tivoli folks are intersted in moving forward with the WINDOWS directory. It looks like across the board they have decided on the WINNT directory. They have pushed out XP machines utilizing the WINNT directory as well so it is a general consensus for the Development/Engineering section of this facility. My question is. What could happen in the future? Will this actually pose a problem? Does it matter which directory is used as long as the %SYSTEMROOT% and %WINDIR% and %SYSTEMDRIVE% variables all function correctly? Would Microsoft actually abandon the usage of a variable in a future app or is there something that we are missing when it comes to the WINNT directory pitfalls? nate -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load When have you found it not to resolve. This env var is pretty important, it is laced all through the registry for Windows Services and applications. joe -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Parris Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load All, Has anyone experienced any issues by installing W2Kx into an alternative location? In this scenario if the other teams are using applications that utilise WINNT, are they potentially out of date and legacy and you are just putting of the inevitable or making it harder to move forward in the future? I understand the concept of the SYSTEMROOT variable, but that does not always resolve correctly. Regards Mark -----Original Message----- From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:13:06 To:[email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load Hi, Not beautifull but I think it will work Try the following: * Insert the harddisk into another computer * Format the disk NTFS * Create the WINDOWS directory on the partition * Remove the harddisk from the computer * Insert the HD into the original computer * Start the setup * As the WINDOWS directory already exists, I think it will ask you to specify another directory (e.g. WINNT) Cheers #JORGE# -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta Nathaniel V Contr NASIC/SCNA Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 14:37 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load Ok, but I am trying to do it from an install that I am doing interactively. Isnt there some kind of command line switch or something like that for WINNT.EXE? I looked through the switches again, but none of them say they are to change the install directory. Nate -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load I believe you can do this using an answer /transform file for the unattended install process. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta Nathaniel V Contr NASIC/SCNA Sent: 06 June 2005 12:06 To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] Alternate install Directory for W2K3 load Hey all, I am trying to create an image for Windows 2003 member servers for our domain and the SMS/Tivoli folks want to keep the default directory for the OS load at C:\WINNT. I have gone through the setup many times booting from the CD and walking through the menus, but there is no option for where I want to install the OS besides selecting the drive and partition. It defaults to C:\WINDOWS. I can specify which directory I want if I am upgrading from a previous OS in the GUI setup mode, but this is to be made for a fresh install, not an upgrade. Any ideas on how to load W2K3 into c:\winnt from the start? Thanks, Nate -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 10:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Error Good point, David. Thanks for enhancing the suggestion. Rick -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Adner Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 7:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Error The /e switch for dcdiag will run the test against every DC in the Forest. Might be good to make sure every DC is seeing the same thing as all others. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 19:24 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Error > > I've seen exactly the same when an Infrastructure Master was missing. > Check all FSMO owners to be sure that they really DO exist. To do > this, it's best to run > > > > DCDIAG /v /test:KnowsOfRoleHolders > > > > You will need to run this in each domain for the domain FSMO roles, > but it will query the domain controllers directly for who they know of > and can they be contacted ("have you heard from this DC lately"). > > > > This is superior to "NETDOM QUERY FSMO" which seems to just blindly > return the information without any verification. > > > > Rick > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve > Rochford > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 4:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Error > > > > When I had a similar error it was because the "domain naming master" > was not available (server had failed and been rebuilt but the FSMO > role had not been seized) > > > > Steve > > > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Za > Sent: Sat 04/06/2005 05:13 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ActiveDir] DNS Error > > Good evening all. A W2K DC was upgraded to W3K and it is also a DNS > server. > No problem at all with prepping and upgrading from W2K->W3K. > I am getting the error below every few minutes. Anyone have a > solution? > > > > Event Type: Error > Event Source: DNS > Event Category: None > Event ID: 4015 > Date: 5/15/2004 > Time: 8:49:51 AM > User: N/A > Computer: PC Name > Description: > The DNS server has encountered a critical error from the > Active Directory. Check that the Active Directory is > functioning properly. The extended error debug > information (which may be empty) is "". 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