thanks joe - that is exactly what i am experiencing.

i'll update the list when/if i get a fix/solution.

again many thanks,

john

Quoting joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> If a user is only in Domain Users (obviously the primary group for the user)
> and when I mean only I mean not in any other security OR distribution groups
> and the domain users group is not nested into any groups other than
> BUILTIN\Users. Then you clear admincount and reset the protection on the
> user account. And then it STILL gets tapped and reset to protected and
> admincount is set to 1 I would call MS, you may have found a nice bug as
> that isn't how it is supposed to work.
> 
>    joe
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Singler
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:55 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] troubleshooting object permission inheritance
> 
> not a strange question ... i looked into that when i first started the
> troubleshooting process .... Domain Users is a member of the Builtin Users
> group which is not a protected group in my environment.
> 
> Just so i have it straight:
> 
> If a user is a member of a protected group it's AdminCount attribute will be
> 1.  If said user is removed from that group it's AdminCount attribute will
> remain 1 until it is changed.  Once it is removed from the protected group
> and the attribute changed to 0 it should remain at 0
>   - yes?
> 
> Back to my problem - user is not a member of a protected group and i can't
> change the AdminCount to 0 w/o it being reset to 1.
> 
> thanks so far,
> 
> john
> 
> Jorge de Almeida Pinto wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> > OK, the users you are talking about are non-default-admin-users and 
> > are not members of protected groups and never have been.
> > 
> > Mayba a strange question.. which groups is the domain users group a 
> > member of?
> > 
> > #JORGE#
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: '[email protected] '
> > Sent: 6/10/2005 10:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] troubleshooting object permission inheritance
> > 
> > Jorge --
> > 
> > I was following those threads which unfortunately did not clue me in. 
> > The users that have AdminCount=1 but shouldn't have never been in a 
> > protected group nor are they in a non protected group that is nested 
> > in protected group.
> > 
> > I have even gone so far as to remove all group memberships (besides 
> > Domain Users) for a particular user, force replication, admod the 
> > attribute to 0 and still it resets to 1 after an hour.
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply - i'd appreciate any more feedback you may have.
> > 
> > john
> > 
> > Jorge de Almeida Pinto wrote:
> > 
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>This was a thread that was discussed a few days ago. See the following
> > 
> > post
> > 
> >>from Joe where he explains some things in addition to my own post.
> >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg29621.html
> >>
> >>HINTS:
> >>* nested groups -> is that user a member of a
> > 
> > non-default-protected-group
> > 
> >>and where that non-default-protected-group IS a member of a protected
> > 
> > group.
> > 
> >>* were those users somehow members of protected groups in the past? If
> > 
> > they
> > 
> >>were and now are not the admincount will not be reset to 0
> >>
> >>Is this an answer to your issue?
> >>
> >>#JORGE#
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Sent: 6/10/2005 8:35 PM
> >>Subject: [ActiveDir] troubleshooting object permission inheritance
> >>
> >>Greetings --
> >>
> >>Using adfind to identify users who have the AdminCount attribute set
> > 
> > to
> > 
> >>1.
> >>
> >>Looking at the output there are users who are expected to have that
> > 
> > set
> > 
> >>seeing that they are Domain Admins BUT i also see a handful of users
> > 
> > who
> > 
> >>are not members of a protected group.
> >>
> >>Using admod to set AdminCount=0 for those users temporarily sets it 
> >>until the PDC mechanism runs which compares the ACLs and resets it.
> >>
> >>If the user isn't in a protected group then what is causing this 
> >>behavior?  And i guess once i know that i can set AdminCount=0 for
> > 
> > them,
> > 
> >>permanently?
> >>
> >>tia,
> >>
> >>john
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