No not at all, I find it perfectly acceptable to use a 100lbs sledgehammer
to work on the balance wheel in a priceless antique watch or to use a
nuclear device to take out one person in the middle of a packed Rose Bowl. 

Yes, this is obviously a bit too much permission to give out to get admin
rights to machines other than DCs. :o)

If someone says they need domain admin for anything, my first question is
why. No one has ever gotten past that point with me when I held the keys. I
have been told that by AV people, Tivoli/Monitoring people, software
delivery people, and other people and every single one of them get a
response back of fix their app or find another way. 

Unfortunately, MS automatically populates Domain Admins and doesn't allow
that to be configured. Of course you can use a GPO but that is just using
another tech to crutch the lack in the original implementation which is
happening a lot already (i.e. confidentiality bit, et al). 

The proper answer is to create some other group and populate the machines
with that group that you want to give out admins rights to the members of
that group. This can be done before or after the machine is a member of the
domain. Either through GPOs or by adding the group directly when you build
the machine or add it to the domain. My lg commandline tool will allow you
to specify a group be added to a machine prior to it being added to a domain
as long as it can resolve the domain SIDs needed. 

Honestly I wonder if we have passed the time when domain admin has exceeded
its useful life. In all but the smallest implementations it probably isn't
likely the domain admin designees are actually responsible for working on
all machines in the domain. Maybe remove it from all products but SBS. That
would certainly force crap app makers to find something else to do to work
on the next rev of the OS. They won't just be able to say, make the service
account a domain admin. 




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain Admins Group Membership

Now that we're beyond the technical specs... does anyone else cringe at the
idea of granting domain admin privileges to satisfy local administrative
rights privileges to machines?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Domain Admins Group Membership

Juan,

You won't be able to add users from another domain to the Domain Admins
group.  The Domain Admins group is a global group, and rules for Globals
Groups are that they can contain users from the domain in which the global
group was created.

By that rule, only users of Domain A may be members of the Domain Admins
group of Domain A.

However, IIRC, the Administrators group is a special group or a Domain Local
group, and will allow the add of users from Domain B.

Rick

> 
> From: "Ibarra, Juan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/06/27 Mon AM 11:24:58 EDT
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain Admins Group Membership
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I need to add certain users from domain B, Win 2000 Domain, to the 
> Domain Admins group of Domain A, Windows 2003 Domain.  There is a two 
> way trust between the two domains; however, I don't seem to find the
way
> to do this.  I am able to add users to shares but not the group.
> 
> 
> How could I accomplish this?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Juan
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 

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