I think you need to solve your business issues before your technical issues. The technology is certainly readily available to handle this type of work if you want to build it. However, you need to be able to feed rules into the system to follow or else the systems no matter how complex will be as worthless as not having anything and not help you as you stand right now.
 
You must find owners for all groups and those owners need to be responsible for the membership. Doing this at a centralized manned level will kill you and be a good way for mistakes to come in and people get access to things they shouldn't as you indicate.
 


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Subject: [ActiveDir] Group Management


Hi all, sorry up front for the long post.

I'm curious how larger organizations manage groups in AD, with respect to authorizing users to be added to/removed from a group.  I don't mean the security around the administration, but the supporting business processes and workflows.  

We've just centralized security administration, and this has created a problem with group administration on quite a large scale.  

Our security admins will get a request to add UserA to GroupA.  Since they have inherited the job, there isnt a clear 'owner' of GroupA, be it an IT owner like the SQL group, or a business owner like the Radiology dept.  If its a group that ultimately get you admin rights on all SQL servers or access to patient data...you can see the problem developing here.  The problem is really two-fold, the security aspects, as well as the time it takes to complete the request.  (multiply it by 1500 requests a day and the admins are really  backed up)

I'm wondering if anyone has had success with a self-service web-based request system, or something similar, and what made it successful?  Ideally, the goal here is to get a detailed request into the admin group with all the info and approvals already in it.

Thanks in advance,
rb

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