I don't understand how this can work in one site :)

If all DC/GCs are defined in the same site, then clients may be 'offered' any 
of these DCs from a DNS perspective, since they are all 'equal'.

You appear to several odd environmental issues which need to be addressed 
before attacking the Outlook related issues.

neil


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix cube
Sent: 05 July 2005 10:22
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC


seems very good but I have 1 domain but I have 15 VLANs, not all domain 
controllers accessible by all VLANs, if I set all the domain controllers to GC 
will that cause a problem? the 2 that I chose to set as GCs are accessible from 
all VLANs.

thanks.
r.c.


On 7/5/05, Almeida Pinto, Jorge de <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also don't agree with what you are saying concerning the maintenance 
> of the GCs.
> 
> If you only have 1 domain in the forest there is NO OVERHEAD in making 
> all DCs GCs. The size of your DIT will not grow in size because there 
> are no other domains. For its own and single domain the GCs will use 
> pointers to the domain data.
> 
> So if you have 1 domain, make all DCs GCs.
> 
> Even if you have multiple domains there as less issues in W2K3 
> compared to W2K because W2K3 DCs/GCs use Linked Value Replication 
> (only in FFL
> w2k3) and for the partial attribute set it only replicates the deltas.
> So even for a multiple domain forest I would consider making all DCs
> GCs.
> 
> Concerning exchange I would not manually define the DCs and GCs it 
> uses. Let exchange itself figure that out. What are the reasons to 
> manually define the DCs/GCs it uses?
> 
> Cheers,
> #JORGE#
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix cube
> Sent: dinsdag 5 juli 2005 10:51
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC
> 
> One site and all servers in that one site.
> 
> 
> On 7/5/05, Rops, Arjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How many sites do you have configured in your AD?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix cube
> > Sent: dinsdag 5 juli 2005 10:34
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC
> >
> > Suffering = users loose connectivity to their mailbox (the Outlook 
> > shows a message saying Trying to connect to your exchange server), 
> > users can't use their home directories on the servers, users not 
> > being able to print, basically users goes offline, waiting for the 
> > GC to be online, now this I understand if there was only one GC, but 
> > if 2, then this shouldn't happen,
> >
> > i.e. the network appears to be seeing each GC as the only one.
> >
> > Is there anything else other than checking the Global Catalogue 
> > check box to make a server GC? (and add it in the system manager in 
> > the exchange server as a GC too) ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > r.c.
> >
> > On 7/5/05, Ruston, Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I don't agree with the below at all, to be candid. I would rather
> have
> > 7 servers, knowing I can lose 1 or 2 without issue, rather than
> working
> > round the clock to keep 2 servers up all the time. To me, that's the 
> > beauty of systems like AD, where the system is distributed and self 
> > resilient. You however, have removed some of that resilience from 
> > the system and have thus moved the maintenance effort from the 
> > system onto your own lap.
> > >
> > > Anyway, now that's off my chest - I think you need to explain what
> > 'the network suffers' means. What symptoms do you see when a GC goes 
> > offline? I'd also like to know why your GCs are going offline.
> > >
> > > We have 100+ GCs here and we probably have 4-5 issues per year. 
> > > When
> > we do have an issue, the net effect on the end user is negligible 
> > due
> to
> > the self healing and resilient nature of AD/GCs themselves.
> > >
> > > neil
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix cube
> > > Sent: 05 July 2005 08:48
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] GC
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for teh reply :)
> > >
> > > I will tell you, because now I have to maintain 2 servers (the 
> > > GCs)
> > online 24/7 I can't take one offline for maitenance for a second 
> > cause the network goes down, imagine if I upgrade the other 5, then 
> > I will have to keep 7 servers alive 24/7!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > I configure the exchange to use multiple GC, but why the network
> > suffers if one of them goes offline? I dont' know? is it by design? 
> > or am I missing something
> > >
> > > thaks,
> > > r.c.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/5/05, Ruston, Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > "rough and ready" response :)
> > > >
> > > > 1. Client logons, Exchange GAL lookups and various other
> components
> > > > require a GC to be available, ideally in the same site. 2. Why 
> > > > are only 2 of the 7 DCs also GCs?
> > > >
> > > > Given that you are experiencing issues, I'd be inclined to
> 'upgrade'
> > > > the remaining 5 DCs to GC status and ensure that your Exchange
> > servers
> > > > are configured to use multiple GCs.
> > > >
> > > > When all DCs are GCs, the infra master FSMO becomes redundant 
> > > > too,
> > so
> > > > that's one less FSMO to worry about catering for :)
> > > >
> > > > neil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rubix
> cube
> > > > Sent: 05 July 2005 08:16
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [ActiveDir] GC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I have 2 GC and 7 domain controllers, I made 2 GC so that if I 
> > > > had
> > to
> > > > take any one of them offline the other will be functional and 
> > > > the network will be ok, what happens is that if any of them goes
> > offline,
> > > > the network goes down, (includeing email service exchange). Any
> > thing
> > > > I should have done ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > r.c.
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