Good point, and one that I should mention.  One strategy that many smaller
shops do take is that they are not really in a position to do all of the
levels of testing usually required to detect and mitigate any regression
issues that might come up in specific systems.

Therefore, what I've done in the past is let the big guys take the lead -
let them do some of your testing for you.  Hang back just a couple, three
days to let some of the bigger issues surface.  The big issues are publicly
noted, the smaller ones are discussed on BugTraq or some of the other
Security related newsgroups.

Also, the Security related newsgroups should be your first stop to find out
what's really big (does this patch - the Important - not the Critical)
really impact me?  (Criticals impact everyone - make NO mistake on that)  

There is nothing wrong with watching to see what issues are being detected
by first responders.  Most of these folks are at the top of the game when it
comes to Security, and they had to get there much the same way - watching
what others did.

Where do best practices come from?  Someone learning that maybe this wasn't
such a great idea, and I should have done THAT instead....  ;o)

Rick

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taylor, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Patching Strategy on DC's

I've been wondering about this same thing.  I was just recently promoted
to server administrator of about 30 servers.  What would be the easiest
way to make sure a patch doesn't interfere with Exchange, SQL, IIS, etc?


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Patching Strategy on DC's

How about: (and maybe not in this order)

1) Install a test environment - test patches before implementation
2) Patch half after compatibility and performance, then patch the others
within 48 hrs. (less, if you're feeling comfortable or the patch is of a
very critical and high risk category)
3) Get a complete system state backup of all DCs before applying any
patches.

A couple thoughts - and to expand upon my earlier comment.

Security IS Risk Management - plain and simple.  Don't patch quickly
just for the sake of patching because Microsoft releases a fix.  Look
closely at the details of the patch - specifically the Technical
sections.  Determine what RISK this vulnerability poses to your
environment.  If it has to do with Alerter on your DCs, but you have the
Alerter service off and Disabled, then it poses less of a risk than, say
- RPC which will allow remote execution if exploited.

However, at the time you need to take into account that there is a real
potential that the application of any un-tested patch WILL cause
disruption of normal operations.  Thereby, you need to approach any
patching with the give and take of applying a patch because it is
necessary and critical, with that of the possibility of disruption.
Analyze the risk of either action, and act accordingly.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murray Wall
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Patching Strategy on DC's

I have a question about a patching strategy for Domain controllers.  We
have a single forest single domain, 4 dc's, when patching for security
patches should we do all the DC's at once, or do half of them or should
we introduce a test lab or lastly a latent replicated production site
with a dc in it?  Thoughts and approaches appreciated!
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