Thanks Steve. I'm curious though. When you say this part: "Disc space is an issue - the .pst files total about 65Gb at the moment compared to 25Gb for the mail store - but that much disc doesn't cost a lot so I'm not too worried." How are you managing disk space and restorable data? Are you keeping it for a day? Two days? Three days back? It seems that if disk space isn't a concern, then maybe this works for you better than RSG's. Just seems like a direction that may have an end in sight although not for quite a while from the sounds of it. I'm also curious why I keep hearing rumors that some don't consider SIS to be a big deal. Sounds like (depends on the answers to the above questions of course) you're getting good SIS ratios at ~ 2.6:1 storage. Al
________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Rochford Sent: Wed 7/6/2005 3:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LegacyExchangeDN Thanks for the blog pointer - I think I've actually read that before but couldn't find it when I was googling. I know about deleted items (and the "dumpsteralwayson" registry key) and it often helps. Exmerge is not time consuming because it runs as a scheduled task so there's nothing special to do there once it works and if a user says that they've lost something and it can't be quickly recovered from deleted items then they can simply be given a copy of their .pst and find whatever they've lost themselves - I don't have an awful lot of sympathy for some of the chaos users get into! Disc space is an issue - the .pst files total about 65Gb at the moment compared to 25Gb for the mail store - but that much disc doesn't cost a lot so I'm not too worried. I've not used RSGs yet - we started the exmerge when we had Exchange 2000 - and I know I should make sure I can use them. As I understand it, it works by restoring an entire store from which you can then extract a single mailbox (or whatever's needed)? If this is the case then I can see it taking a lot longer to do the restore than just getting a .pst (and it also means it can't just be done by helpdesk people) I think I will go with Joe's idea of cahnging the name to remove the comma but sticking the old version as an X500 address; I'm sure I can cobble up a script to do it! Steve ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LegacyExchangeDN This might be helpful for this situation: Background: if you'd like some more information on legacyExDN there's some nice information about it here: http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2004/03/24/95451.aspx As for this particular issue: 1) You do realize that recovery of messages is handled by the store for this exact reason right? It's called deleted items retention and you can restore messages for users that fat finger the deletes to prevent going to tape. Using exmerge to do this is wicked expensive in terms of time and man power and storage in most situations. 2) Recovery Storage Groups would be a better solution to the problem if deleted items recovery doesn't work for you. Much better storage, but it does require that you put the store in question back. (you may want this hotfix if you use RSG's) http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883419 I'm glad to hear some of the members finally show the proper respect for Exchange and the effort and knowledge that go into making it work well ;) Al ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe Sent: Mon 7/4/2005 4:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] LegacyExchangeDN legacyExchangeDN is what is stored with mail messages and calendar entries etc. If you change an LEDN of UserX there is a possibility that the people will not be able to simply respond to an email UserX sent, they would have to readdress it. Additionally meeting notices sent out by UserX would no longer be owned by UserX from my understanding. You could try doing it and moving the ledn into the proxyAddresses as an x500 address. This should alleviate the mail delivery issues, not sure if it would help with the calendar stuff. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rochford Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] LegacyExchangeDN I'm trying to use Exmerge to backup the Exchange store (this is an extra to a "proper" store level backup so that we can retrieve odd messages for people who manage to delete them; I do know that it's not the best way to do the backup!). It all works well except for users with a comma in the LegacyExchangeDN - the mailboxes.txt file created by ExMerge has lines like: /O=THE COLLEGE OF NORTH WEST LONDON/OU=MAIN/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=1794 /O=THE COLLEGE OF NORTH WEST LONDON/OU=MAIN/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=KENT, VANESSA The first of these backs up OK; the second doesn't. I'm guessing that it's because of the comma. I could probably find some way of creating the file so that there were quotes round the whole line but I'd rather lose the comma. Is there anything which depends on the value of LegacyExchangeDN which might fall over if I change the values for some accounts (running Exchange 2003 on Windows 2003 but these accounts started life on Exchange 5.5/NT4) Steve List info : http://www.activedir.org/Listaspx <http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/Listaspx <http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
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