Hi Tom, 

I hope you do mind if I throw in my two cents. I strongly agree with Charlie. 
HP Proliant controllers are rock solid, I really like the 5304 controllers and 
the newer replacement 6404. In answer to your question, yes you can have 
multiple raid arrays off the same controller, and in fact since a 5304 
controller is a 4 channel controller it is best to separate the arrays by 
having each on it's own channel. I have had two Compaq controllers fail in my 
10 years of supporting Proliant servers one in 1997 on a SMART 2DH Raid 
controller and the second was here at ADP with a 5304 controller. In both cases 
Compaq / HP gave excellent support and with the 5304 controller I was able to 
swap it out and recover the array with out having to restore from backup not to 
mention that they also had a replacement delivered with in 4 hours. My only 
recommendation is to make sure you keep your controller firmware up to date.

So with that said, running RAID 10 for your transaction logs is ideal and even 
better for your data store, however if you have a small environment then RAID 5 
is fine as long as it is done on a hardware based SCSI raid controller and not 
in the Operating System.

Regards, 

Jose Medeiros
Former Vice President and Postmaster NTEA
MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT
www.ntea.net
www.tvnug.org
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charlie Kaiser
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] exchange upgrade (OT)


We use a DL380 with 6 drives for our E2K3 server. One RAID 1 set for
OS/Logs, one 3-drive RAID 5 set for the DBs, and a hot spare available
to both arrays. 
Given our E2K3 org size (single server, DB of around 17gb, under 200
mailboxes, low PF usage), this setup works fine.
We only use one controller. The HP controllers have been pretty durable
for us. We've had issues with system boards or backplanes, but the
controllers have not given us any flak. You have to balance cost and
probability of failure with the desire for a second controller card. I'd
base it on my SLA and uptime needs for E2K3. Eliminating a single point
of failure (as in a single controller) is desirable, but in the end, if
you lose one of your controllers, you're still going to go down for a
while.
If I had a larger E2K3 org and needed more drives (as in RAID 10 or
0+1), I would consider the DAS cabinet that HP offers along with a
second controller. We use them for some of our other systems and they
have been fine.
I seem to remember that the price point between the DAS cabinet + DL380
vs a larger server with more internal storage worked in favor of the DAS
cabinet... That was over a year ago, though.
We looked at going to a SAN at the time and decided that SAN
architecture and cost was well outside the scope of an E2K3 migration
project. 


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Charlie Kaiser
MCSE, CCNA
Systems Engineer
Essex Credit / Brickwalk
510 595 5083
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:50 AM
> To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
> Subject: [ActiveDir] exchange upgrade (OT)
> 
> I'm moving to exchange 2k3 and i'm starting off with a fresh 
> new server
> 
> We use HP proliant DL's here.
> 
> My questions are -
> I want to use raid 0+1 or raid 10(deoending on price) for the 
> trans logs.
> I want to keep the exchange binaries and db seperate from the 
> logs on a raid 5.
> 
> To do this, do i need 2 raid controllers or can i just do this with 1?
> alos the proliants seem to only support 6 drives and for this 
> solution i will need at least 7. 
> Has anyone had experince with doing this on proliants with 
> the smart array 6i controller?
> 
> Thanks a lot
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