Hi

That's a highly likely explanation. Some re-organisation of the
groups/membership  required then. We're due a spring clean anyway. :)
Is an offline Metadata cleanup worthwhile performing?

Thanks to all for the advice. Much appreciated!

Cheers

Danny


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Shirley
Sent: 14 July 2005 10:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Latency in Group membership



My gut says that it is not a member of a lot of groups, but more a group
with too many memberships ... 

If you have too many values for a group (the official soft limit is
5000), then you can get write conflict, or version store issues, that
can cause the group membership change to not be applied because of a
timing issue or resource issues, that may be temporary.  Replication
continues to try, and eventually succeeds.  This could be an
explanation.

Cheers,
BrettSh [msft]
SDE

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, McCann, Danny wrote:

> Hi
>  
> We do have the odd user who is member of a large number of groups 
> (~20). How many is too many? Looks like a lot of investigative work 
> required then. Oh well, coffee on and sleeves rolled up!
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Danny
>  
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
>       Sent: 14 July 2005 04:36
>       To: [email protected]
>       Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Latency in Group membership
>       
>       
>       You need to determine what your replication latency is. If the
group 
> membership is set on an authenticating DC, you will get it is in your 
> token unless there are other issues like having way too many group 
> memberships or something else that causes a kerberos issue. So again, 
> look at how long your latency is for making a chance and seeing it on 
> all DCs.
> 
>   _____
> 
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCann, Danny
>       Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:18 AM
>       To: [email protected]
>       Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Latency in Group membership
>       
>       
>       Hi
>        
>       There are no apps running on the DC's. The event logs are clean,
but 
> there is the occasional directory replication problem (every few 
> days), a single object with "directory busy, will try again later", 
> which will then succeed on the next replication. But they pass all the

> DCDiag tests.
>        
>       Cheers
>        
>       Danny
>        
>        
> 
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
>               Sent: 13 July 2005 13:18
>               To: [email protected]
>               Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Latency in Group membership
>               
>               
>               What apps are running on the DC's? Have you checked to
> be sure that replication is functioning correctly?  Event logs clean?
>                
>               Al
> 
>   _____
> 
>               From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCann, Danny
>               Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:33 AM
>               To: [email protected]
>               Subject: [ActiveDir] Latency in Group membership
>               
>               
> 
>               Hi
> 
>               Recently our domain has began to show some latency in
resolving 
> group membership.
>               Ie When someone is newly added to a group for access to
> a particular resource it's now taking much longer than was the norm to

> resolve that security. It's taking anything from 30mins to the next 
> day to resolve itself.
> 
>               Logging off and back on again to clear the kerberos
> ticket doesn't (usually) solve the problem. 
>               I've tested AD and monitored some NTDS performance
> counters and everything appears to be fine. 
>               Network performance is good and there's no great loading
> on any of the DC's.
> 
>               I'd be grateful if anyone could help me out with some
guidance on 
> where to look next.
> 
>               Thanks
> 
>               Danny
> 
> 

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