Guido,
 
Removing read for auth users they cannot go into the OU and List Object does 
not even show the OU. We agree on that one. However, if you don't remove the 
explicit auth users/everyone from the objects inside the OU, what happens if I 
query for specific object types inside the OUs? I thought for auth. 
users/everyone not being able to see those you also had to remove the explicit 
perms for auth. users/everyone on those objects
 
Cheers,
#JORGE#

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Grillenmeier, Guido
Sent: Fri 7/22/2005 11:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hiding an OU



if you're fine with other users seeing the existance of OUX, then 
there's no need to leverage DSHEURISTICS and the list object mode. 

but I'd suggest to change the def. sec. descriptor for OUs by removing 
Auth. Users from it - this way you'll be on the safe side that stuff in 
new OUs won't be readable or searchable by accident. You shouldn't need 
to remove the explicit auth. users read permissions from the objects 
contained _within_ the Sub-OUs, as long as you've removed the 
read-permissions for auth.users on all OUs... 

/Guido 

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Jorge de 
Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 15:52 
To: [email protected]; [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Hiding an OU 

each time you create an OU beneath that OUx remove from the OUs 
authenticated users. The objects in the OU also have authenticated users 
and everyone explicitely defined. you also need to get rid of those too. 
Remove the members of the Pre-Windows 2000 compatible Access group (if 
possible and this depends if you have legacy apps or servers) 
  
remember that if you use the default MS admin groups (account 
operators,etc) those members can still see and do actions they have 
permissions configured for. 
  
Removing auth. users and everyone makes sure those groups do not have 
the ability to see the values of properties of those objects. However 
they will still see the objects itself (visual) to prevent that also you 
need to use the "list object" permission which is not availabel by 
default. Use List Object permissions, if users are not supposed to see 
the existance of specific objects 
  
To activate (for whole AD forest) change the DSHeuristics property on 
the Directory Service object to 001: 
cn=Directory Service,cn=Windows 
NT,cn=Services,cn=Configuration,dc=ForestRootDomain 
Use in combination with the LIST CONTENT permission on parent container 
(Caution: if used wrong, you could revoke access to sections or all of 
your Active Directory) 
  
Cheers 
#JORGE# 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Dave Fugleberg 
Sent: Fri 7/22/2005 3:16 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [ActiveDir] Hiding an OU 


 I have an OU (call it OUX) that contains a bunch of 
OUs, which contain users.  I want to hide the OU so 
that only administrators and members of one specific 
group can see it if they browse the directory (say 
with Windows 2000, or LDP). 

I also want any new OUs or other objects that I create 
under OUX to get the same treatment.  I don't care if 
others can see OUX itself. 

I know that Authenticated Users gets lots of read 
permissions on new objects from the default security 
descriptors (these have not been changed).  This 
domain also has Everyone still in the Pre-Windows 2000 
Compatible Access group, because nobody has taken time 
to figure out if it can be removed without screwing 
anything up.  The domain is W2K native with some W2K3 
DCs and no clients below NT4 SP4. 

I figured out a way to do most of this, but I was 
hoping the experts here could tell me how they would 
approach the issue.  My solution ended up blocking 
inheritance and removing the read permission for each 
sub-OU manually... 
Thanks! 

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