There are no servers on this subnet and we do not allow broadcast across our
routers.

If that machine goes offline, shouldn't that just force an election?

jb

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood


Jason,

Is the machine listed as the M-B a workstation or a server?  Are there any
servers on this subnet?

What I'm getting at is workstations get shut off - servers typically don't.

In the past I've disabled workstations from becoming master browsers to
avoid just the problem you're seeing.

However, if everything on this subnet (and I'm guessing you have B-Cast
disabled across layer 3 devices) is a workstation, then that's probably not
a good idea.  ;-)

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:05 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood

Ok, I have can see server when I do a net view now.

Here's what I did. I used browstat tic on that subnet to stop the master
browser. Then I did a browstat el to force an election.

That same computer became the master browser again, with no backup servers,
but atleast now it list the servers when I do the net view.

One last question, should there be any workstations listed as backup servers
other than the machine that is the master browser?

Thank you again for everyone's help.

jb

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:57 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood


Interesting, The reg value was already set on the computer that reports as
the master browser on that subnet and browstat sta only list the one
computer, no other computers are running as backups.

I tried to force an election with browstat, but it didn't seem to do
anything.

Maybe I should see if I can reboot the machine in question.

Any more ideas?

Thanks,jb

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood


Go to that pc and open regedit and change the value of this key to "false"-
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Browser\Parameters


this will stop that machine from trying tp participate in browser elections
and become a master browser for your subnet. Also, before doing this, i
would run browstat from the support tools on that machine to see if you get
any more info or errors.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Benway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:33 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood


Ok, browmon showed me which computer on that segment is the master browser.

But I'm not sure what the next step would be.

Thank you
jb

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Linehan
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:58 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood


Network neighborhood relies on the browser service.  From your description
it sounds like you likely have a problem with the master browser for that
segment.  That being said tracking down these failures can be time consuming
and difficult.  I would suggest using browmon from the resource kit and
trying to find out who the master browser is to start. Here is a description
of how the browser service builds its lists:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;188001
 
Thanks,
 
-Steve

________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jason Benway
Sent: Tue 7/26/2005 8:27 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: empty network neighborhood



Starting about a week ago, one of our subnets stopped being able to view any
of the servers though network neighborhood.

All of the servers are in a different subnet than the subnet with the
problem. We only have one WINS server and the computer with problems are
pointing to that server. The workstations can ping the servers by name and a
start > run > \\servername works.

These are all windows XP SP1 and SP2.

Thanks,jb

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