I'm digging into my memory right now and the answer concerning profiles when 
doing an intra forest migration is (at least I think so, don't remember exactly)
 
ADMT will translate profiles if needed. However, using ADMT with an intra 
forest migration (as I said before) of user accounts will delete the user 
account in the source domain and create a new one in the target domain. Why is 
the source user deleted? Reason: The new target user account will have the same 
GUID as the source user and in a forest each user account MUST have a unique 
GUID. The target user will get a new sid and the old sid gets into sidhistory 
(if told so). So if you have windows 2000/xp/2003 clients there is not need to 
redirect (ACL translation still needed if you want to get rif of sidhistory in 
the end) the profile to the new user account because the pointer in the 
registry uses the GUID. If you have NT4 clients then you still must redirect 
the profiles
 
Cheers
#JORGE#

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Flesher
Sent: Sat 7/30/2005 4:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Intra-forest migration


Destructive migration is not sounding real good at the moment. Restoring all of 
the user and objects back the way they were probably isn't an easy proposition 
either, I'm guessing.
 
As for the profiles, would the profiles be "migrated" as well with admt 
version2, meaning when the user logs in as domain-destination\username, the 
same profile would be there as the one domain-origin\username? The reason I ask 
is that even if the migration is a move and not a copy with admtv2, I may need 
another reason to push for a commercial product. If admtv2 can't do the above 
with the profile, how difficult do you think it would be to script something 
for ~2500 users so that when they walk in on Monday, all they have to do is log 
in and all things are good to go.
 
Sorry for the ramble. Thanks for the reply.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Sent: Fri 7/29/2005 10:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Intra-forest migration


when doing intra forest migrations some tools are destructive menaing the old 
user account is deleted before the new one is created. Reason is with a intra 
forest migration the GUID does not change (SID does) the problem with this is 
it does not provide fallback. In fact it is a MOVE. As I know, Domain Migration 
Wizard from Quest does a copy and thus providing for fallback concerning the 
user account which is a pro. There also cons when thinking about profiles, when 
thinking copy compared to move. It all depends on what you want and like best
 
Cheers
#JORGE#

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Flesher
Sent: Sat 7/30/2005 12:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Intra-forest migration


We are trying to reorganize our forest and move accounts to one domain with 
multiple child resource domains, mostly for political reasons that most 
Universities are familiar with. What tool(s) are available besides ADMTv2 to 
migrate users from one domain to another within the same forest? ADMT does not 
copy profiles as far as I know. My biggest issue is not having enough staff to 
touch all the desktops in one weekend, and hiring temps is probably out as 
well. Would it be difficult to script something to migrate profiles? Has anyone 
tried to do this themselves?
 
Thanks as always. This list is a real help.
 
Chris Flesher
The University of Chicago
NSIT/DCS
(773)-834-8477
 


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