I am not sure it is a people wanting NDS/Netware features as much as it is people wanting certain features that would make their lives easier and it just so happens Novelle had come to some of the same conclusions previously on what to add or were bugged for them. A lot of the things being asked for would probably be asked for on other directories as well unless they were already there. And then on the others, people could be asking for features that AD already has implemented, but not necessarily because they have used AD.
Yeah I also like the idea of upgrading AD outside of the OS. I really tried to push for that in April 2004 at Redmond. There was a mixed response of that will never happen and never say never, that is an interesting idea followed up by would I be willing to pay for AD as a separate product. My response to that was if the price of the OS product went down in a similar way. Of course it also opens up MS to more competition there. Someone else just may come out with an AD like product to run on Windows if it was sold separately and someone knew they had to buy it from someone. Now who could that be? I like the last one too... A machine becomes part of a domain, its local SAM no longer functions. That would be some pretty massive changes though I expect. So what reasons did you come up with to remind yourself why you left NDS? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruston, Neil Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:31 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Biggest AD Gripes I always find it quite ironic that those who have never used NDS/Netware always seem to want NDS/Netware features, once they've worked with AD for a period of time :) I have to remind myself why I booted NDS out in preference to NT/AD years ago... Novell have been offering the vast majority of what is being proposed here for many years and even started to support the equivalent of GPO to Windows devices around 10 years ago too! I would add a new gripe (which Novell do support and have done since Netware 4) and that is the ability to upgrade the AD (or any other component for that matter) across an enterprise. Naturally, this means that these components need to be more modular, but it would be great if I could upgrade AD from version n to n+1 by simply deploying a file/files across all my DCs and then re-starting AD out of hours (not a server re-start, just a component re-start). Another gripe (if I may) would be my hate for local accounts. Why do we have / need an AD database and another database on each member server? Again, NDS/eDIR has a better architecture, in that all SPs exist within the directory and none exist on the servers themselves. TCO diminished immediately :) neil -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom Sent: 02 August 2005 23:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Biggest AD Gripes I think what a lot of the stuff people are asking for is to take some of the stuff that NDS and eDir already use. Rights and login scripts at ou's and divivding AD as an admin sees fit. As least that's what it seems like to me but I haven't worked with Novell in about 4yrs. -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld (www.BlackBerry.net) List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ ============================================================================ == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.csfb.com/legal_terms/disclaimer_external_email.shtml ============================================================================ == List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
