I'm kinda confused as to what the confusion is about...

What is he saying that is different than what you're saying?

Hehe

Cheers!

rob

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 1:15 PM
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For my own purposes, I am interested to know why it is you interpret the
whitepaper you posted a link to as supporting your case, it clearly
states -

"Multidomain forest where every domain controller in a domain holds the
global catalog: 

If every domain controller in a domain that is part of a multidomain
forest
also hosts the global catalog, there are no phantoms or work for the
infrastructure master to do. The infrastructure master may be put on any
domain controller in that domain."

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Dean Wells
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:25 PM
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I am afraid not... 

One of the common replies and misunderstood rumors is that the
Infrastructure Master (IM) is only allowed to run on a Global Catalog
Server
(GC) if every Domain Controller (DC) in the Forest is Global Catalog
Server.
That rumor is just based on misleading wording.

The infrastructure masters job is to compare objects of the local domain
against objects in other domains of the same forest. If the server
holding
the infrastructure master is also a global catalog it won't ever see any
differences, since the global catalog holds a partitial copy of every
object
in the forest itself. Therefore the infrastructure master won't do
anything
in its domain. However if every DC in the Domain is also global catalog
server there's no job for the IM since the GC already knows about the
objects of other domains. So if you look at the job the IM has to do,
it's
pretty clear that it may reside on a GC if it's a single domain forest
(no
need to pull updates from other domains). It's also pretty clear that it
may
reside on a GC if it's in a multiple domain forest but every DC in the
domain where the IM runs on the GC are also GCs (no need to pull updates
since the GC knows everything).

So the following infrastructure is a valid configuration:

One domain:
R-DC1 (GC + IM)
R-DC2 (GC)
R-DC3-x (must be GC)

Other domain:
O-DC1 (GC)
O-DC2 (IM)
O-DC3-x (might or might not be GC, does not matter)

The first domain does not need to pull updates since the GCs know
everything, the other domain has the IM running on a non-GC so it pulls
the
updates and replicates them to other DCs.

The following KB states that correctly:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223346/EN-US/
 
So to be short:
The Infrastructure Master is not allowed to run on a Global Catalog
Server
if either there are multiple Domains in the Forest there are Domain
Controllers in the same Domain which are not Global Catalog Servers
 
The Infrastructure Master is allowed to run on a Global Catalog Server
in a
Domain if either there's only one Domain in the Forest every Domain
Controller in the Domain in question is Global Catalog Server
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I'm afraid it's not correct, when all DCs are GCs (within a single
domain),
the IM can happily co-reside with a GC.  I'd also mention that the
impact
the IM imposes on a DC is typically negligible (forest design can impact
that statement to some extent but I've not personally seen a forest
designed
or utilized that badly).

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:17 AM
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You are correct. However if you have two DC's it doesn't hurt to offload
the
infrastructure master role to the DC that dose not have the other 4
roles,
even if it's in a single domain forest.

Jose :-)

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Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:09 AM
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Am I missing something or having Infrastructure Master running on GC is
an
issue in multi-domain forest ?

Guy

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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:28 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Question on Replication Topology

Dear List Members (Whom I have a hard time figuring out how you all have
so
much time to help us "not quite up to speed, but severely overtasked
Administrators");

After a power failure took a Forest Root DC offline over the weekend
(for 26
hours), I came in today to find my replication "in question".
Repadmin /Showreps does not show any errors however, it shows
inconsistent
Replication partners.  Here is my question;

We have:
Forest Root Domain (Empty)
DC1 (Holds all 5 roles)  (the DC offline for 26 hours)
DC2
One Domain in the Forest
DC4
DC5 (Holds all 5 Roles)
DC6

Everyone is W2K3 (no Service Packs) and everyone is a GC and everyone is
a
DNS server.

I was positive that I had the Forest Root and Domain at Windows Server
2003 Forest Functional Level but now when I go to AD Domains and Trusts
and
click the Forest Root Domain and right click Properties I get:
Domain Functional Level = Windows 2000 mixed Forest Functional Level =
Windows 2000 When I go to AD Domains and Trusts and click the Domain and
right click Properties I get:
Domain Functional Level = Windows Server 2003 Forest Functional Level =
Windows 2000

I must have miscalculated, but that's not my question.

In my AD Sites and Services, I have connection objects that have
automatically been generated for each DC but they are inconsistent.  ie:

DC1 goes to DC2 and DC6
DC2 goes to DC1 and DC5
DC4 goes to DC5 and DC6
DC5 goes to DC4 and DC6
DC6 goes to DC1 and DC4 and DC5

The question is, "Shouldn't they all have automatically generated
connection
objects to everybody else and if they don't, is it just a matter of me
adding the manual new connection object?"  Or am I seeing a properly
configured Sites and Services.  If not, is part of my problem that I
have
not got the Forest Root at FFL?

Thanks in advance people for any assistance.  This list is so valuable,
it's
not funny.  (Seriously!)

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Microsoft Systems Administrator
James W. Sewall Company
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