I tested PromoDag about 2-3 years ago. I was very impressed and would have bought it in a jiffy if their price had not been too high. They later offered some deal, but by then I was out of budget. Sincerely,
Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Wed 8/17/2005 5:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat Hi Michael, Until they add the feature to compact ( Or defrag ) the Information store while online, it's probably not some thing we would have an interest in. As far as other solutions for reporting, do you have any recommendations as to which tools you prefer? Jose :-) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat If you choose to purchase the product, I would certainly be interested in knowing your perspective on it after a couple of months. From my perspective, it gives some pretty reports (which other packages do just as well); and it puts a nice GUI in front of something that you shouldn't be doing very often anyway. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat Hi Michael, I just got off the phone with the Sales rep, I am mistaken. GoExchange will not have the additional functionally to do a full defrag of the data base with out taking the server offline until end of year. My apologies. However it does give excellent reporting capability on the condition of the data base. The demo is free, and although the demo will not let you actually repair the data base it will give you a full report as to it's present state. Jose ---------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat This tool, I believe, runs eseutil in the background. The message store that goExchange is working on must be offline while it's being "maintained": http://www.lucid8.com/faq/faq_general6.asp -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat I am not sure I understand your point.. if he is trying to fix his bloat issue, this tool will do the same thing as Esutuil in compacting the database with out having to take down his exchange servers. Last time I ran Esutuil on a 30gb data base it took nearly 10 hours to finish. Jose -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat I would never recommend a tool that does offline defragmentation as preventive maintenance. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat Want a simpler method? Try http://www.goexchange.com/, ( GOexchange is painless to use and saves you time by running automatic expert preventive maintenance while you attend to more important things ) You won't even have to take your Exchange servers offline to defrag the information and public folder stores. Jose :-) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat KB192185 has good info on this. You are on the right path, IMO. Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Douglas M. Long Sent: Wed 8/17/2005 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat I guess I was thinking of using the /p switch because of a paragraph" "Run ESEUTIL with the /p switch to configure ESEUTIL to create the new defragmented database on an alternate location (for example, to a location on a different hard disk). This switch lets you preserve your original defragmented database (which lets you revert back to your original database if necessary). This switch also significantly reduces the amount of time it takes to defragment a database, because you are rebuilding to a new location, rather then rebuilding the database in place." I was thinking...hmmm, it takes less time, and I have a little more protection from something going wrong...sounds good to me. Comments? And now that I think of it, my command probably needed a PATH for the new DB unless there is a default, but I won't know that till I run eseutil. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat Well IIRC /p is a hard repair whilst /d is for defrag. If you have a working, mountable store that you want to defrag you don't need the /p switch. Anyone got any comment? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas M. Long Sent: 17 August 2005 18:13 To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] OT:Exchange 2003 SP1 bloat OK, so I have scheduled a window this weekend to run an offline defrag of the mailbox store. Now I am looking for the best way to do this, and since this list seems to have more/better experience with Exchange than the Exchange list, I am looking for comments. Here are the steps I am planning on taking: 1. Full backup of "General" store 2. Dismount "General" store 3. > eseutil /d /p F:\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\General.edb *Is it a good idea to use the /p switch (I have enough space) **If using the /p switch, what is the mounting procedure for the new DB? 4. Full backup of new DB Any comments are very welcome, and appreciated. 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