Steve Linehan wrote:
A network trace from the server getting the error would be helpful.  I
imagine you are not getting past the MIT KDC who should be passing back
a referral to the Windows KDC.  With a trace from the client we can see
what is being requested and what errors are returned.

I'm trying to arrange that but the system initiating the query to AD is in a different division and is not always easy to work with. A check of our MIT KDC logs looked ok. We see the initial request to the MIT KDC, another for pre-auth, and then the forwarding to AD.

Is there a way to see something similar to a MIT KDC log in AD? I've looked for a way to who is getting tickets and when but have never found it.

        al


Thanks,

-Steve
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Al Lilianstrom wrote:

Thanks for all the advice.

Checked our srv records and they returned all the DCs. It was resolvable from our MIT/Unix systems.

The strange part is that between 5:30 and 7:15 this morning access using MIT credentials started working. I'm searching for a reason as to why it happened but no one admits to changing anything.


And strangely enough - 2 hours later they started failing again. This is
very weird. The Windows event logs are of no help.

Any other ideas?

        al


Steve Linehan wrote:


I should clarify that I would not expect the MIT KDCs to be using the


SRV records however we have seen problems where load from Windows clients, because we had limited servers actually registering SRV records, could cause anomalies.
Thanks,

-Steve

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Actually it is possible that you are running into this issue:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;841395. Check


to make sure that your SRV records are being registered in DNS.

Thanks,

-Steve

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I am not aware of any changes in SP4 or the security patch that would


cause the failure you mention below. It is normally a DNS name resolution issue that causes that error. Can you verify that the Windows KDCs can be resolved from the UNIX boxes? Would it be possible to get a network trace of the failure?

Thanks,

-Steve

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Subject: [ActiveDir] w2k sp4 Kerberos changes?

Hi,

We applied sp4 to our w2k based AD this morning. It was a tad hurried


as

one of the ms05-039 based worms showed up inside our border router (laptop from home) so not everything got tested in our test domain. We noticed that Unix based applications that used Kerberos authentication (we have a MIT Kerberos infrastructure for the Unix systems) to read and

write to AD started failing.

The error isn't very helpful either - "Miscellaneous failure (Cannot re solve KDC for requested realm)". All w2k DCs are on line and

functional.

The trusts to the MIT side are still there.

I've been looking through the sp4 docs and I don't see anything obvious but I may have missed something. We also applied the ms05-042


Kerberos spoofing patch but according to the docs it doesn't change functionality

without a registry change.

Any ideas?

   al




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