Wholeheartedly agree. 

Tom, it wouldn't be right to post anything to a public list.  Can you drop a 
note to me off-line? I may have a few ideas that could be helpful having just 
been looking at this type of situation.

Al

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] lots of issues


Wow, that outsource firm was being nasty... Is it a large well known firm or 
some small place? This kind of crap should probably be shouted from the 
rooftops because it is a real shitty way to do business. I would at least drop 
a line to the president or CEO of that outsourcing firm. I would also consider 
publicly documenting the issue so that other companies wouldn't be harmed by 
them. Of course, get permission from your management to do so but if they say 
no, tell them that had someone else done that, your company may not be in the 
bad spot it finds itself in now. 

I never screw over old customers or employers because you never know when you 
might be working with them again plus it is just bad business and shows you to 
be very untrustworthy in a position of responsibility. The times I have been 
fired, it has been entirely the choice of the company and I happily walked out 
the door without doing anything, heck if I had been asked for an exit-interview 
I would have even of done that, I am not out to screw anyone over. This does 
indeed work, in one case, I was hired back several years later. Had I done 
anything  bad to harm them I am quite sure that offer wouldn't have shown up....

   joe 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:00 PM
To: activedirectory
Subject: [ActiveDir] lots of issues

This company is in a jam i've yet to have seen.

They outsourced AD/Exchange and when they tried to get it back, the outsource 
firm demoted their DC's that are phyisically present at the company. some of 
these former DC's dhcp and dns. now no one knows the local admin password and 
connectivity between the root has been severed. no one wants to go the linux pw 
disk route because they can't reboot the server. there's no way i can get local 
system access to this server that i can think of.

is there any other way to change or get the local admin password of what is now 
essentially a stand alone server? i know this is bodering on "hacking" so i 
understand if i get no response. just curious if there is a way to do this 
without a server reboot. thanks a lot.
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