After reading joe's description, which sounds accurate to a non-expert
like myself, I am willing to raise my confidence in my answer from a
measly 12% to a full 17%.

Well, I agree with most of what joe said, except for the part about not
being able to "look" at the membership, you _sort of_ can as I alluded to
in my mail, just not via the typical member attribute as joe was pointing
out.

Cheers,
Brett

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Dean Wells wrote:

>  
> To further clarify Joe's point; the subset of foreignSecurityPrincipals
> within the domain NC under the ForeignSecurityPrincipals container (many [or
> all] of which will be well-known security principals) are present there
> because of a relationship with another object within that partition.  
> 
> The foreignSecurityPrincipals within the config. NC serve as a template and
> represent the well-known security principals listed by the object picker
> when, for example, editing an ACL (do not test this by deleting one, unless
> it's a sandpit, since recreating them can be problematic).
> 
> As a general rule of thumb, and as far as I can recollect, foreign security
> principals are created to represent any security principal that cannot be
> resolved by a forest-local GC, e.g. users from a foreign forest's domain or
> well-known security principals ... <teasing> and are necessary because of
> the archaic underlying database engine we continue to insist on using :o)
> </teasing>.
> 
> --
> Dean Wells
> MSEtechnology
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Enterprise Domain Controllers
> 
> It isn't an actual group. 
> 
> It is a Well-Known security principal (SID=S-1-5-9) like Authenticated Users
> or Everyone or Terminal Server User. You don't have the ability to look at
> the membership, let alone modify it. When a token for a domain controller is
> built, the SID is simply added to it. 
> 
> It is represented in the directory as a foreignSecurityPrincipal so it can
> be added to groups and ACEs like Everyone is. As Tom indicated, it is
> maintained in the Wellknown Security Principals container of the
> configuration partition with other Well Known Security Principals. 
> 
> Here is a quick listing of all the FSPs listed in that container
> 
> Anonymous Logon
> Authenticated Users
> Batch
> Creator Group
> Creator Owner
> Dialup
> Digest Authentication
> Enterprise Domain Controllers
> Everyone
> Interactive
> Local Service
> Network
> Network Service
> NTLM Authentication
> Other Organization
> Proxy
> Remote Interactive Logon
> Restricted
> SChannel Authentication
> Self
> Service
> Terminal Server User
> This Organization
> Well-Known-Security-Id-System
> WellKnown Security Principals
> 
> 
>     joe
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Brad
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:17 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Enterprise Domain Controllers
> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Can anyone tell me where this group is stored?  It isn't in the directory,
> and it isn't a local group...any ideas on how to check it's membership list
> is correct?
> 
> TIA,
> 
> 
> Brad
> 
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