I honestly don’t know. Why don’t you try it and see?

 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)

 

now i'm thinking that will alter the mail headers.

i'm not sure if you'd want to do that in an archive situation.

Am I right?

 

Thanks

 

On 9/1/05, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Right. Exchange will route the email through the least cost most direct and first available connector.

 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:20 PM


To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)

 

I don't understand.

 

just make 2 connectors, one with provider1.com and the other with provider2.net and exchange will send ity to both?

 

I can't believe that didn't occur to me.

 

thanks. sometimes its the stuff right under your nose.

 



 

On 9/1/05, Brian Desmond < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well are there two different providers? Make an smtp connector each and change the address space…

 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:48 PM


To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)

 

how can i point it to two smarthosts?

one for complaince and one for archival?

i think you can only send to one smarthost at a time..

 

tell me if i'm wrong.

thanks

 

On 9/1/05, Brian Desmond < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well the sector concept is, as Deji said early, pretty bad.

 

I never setup a journaling mailbox before, but, why can't you do this contact thing for everything and route it to wherever you outsource this stuff? You could put two SMTP addresses on the contact, one for your compliance people and one for your archiving people (whats the difference?)…

 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Kern
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:12 PM
To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)

 

We set the archive mailbox to go t a contact with the smtp addy of the archive co which gets sent thru a dedicated smtp connector that only routes that email domain to a smarthost.

Incoming is mx.

 

Thats how we do it.

now my boss wants to use a diff co for archving and another one for complaince.

Sector has "agents" that make a mapi connection to the journal mailbox and then forward it via an smtp agent on the same host(win xp with outlook).

You have one agent per journal box.

we have about 10 exchange enterprise servers all with the full 4 storage groups and 5 stores.

thats a lot of mail for mapi.

 

either that or you need like a desktop agent per store forwarding out.

 

still, i think the concept is faulty.

but what do i know...



 

On 9/1/05, Brian Desmond < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

KVS is the only product I'm familiar with, and it needs a whole bunch of
pieces on various servers that all tie together.

I don't understand how you would go about offloading internal mail archiving
to a third party ... mail within a routing group is never going to get
routed such that it could leave the routing group and come back in. There
are more than enough people who will gladly have you set your mx record to
them as well as smarthost outbound mail to them, and then they'll stash a
copy in their database somewhere and forward the mail to its final
destination.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 7:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)

No disagreement about MAPI. Just not the way he described it.


Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon

________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Martin Tuip
Sent: Thu 9/1/2005 4:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)




I believe all of the archiving companies use MAPI as that is the only way
Microsoft has available right now that is supported to do this.


Martin (who works for an Archiving company) :)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)

If the way you described is the way Sector really does their archiving,
please stay away from them.

Now, since your boss wants to offload this to a 3rd-party, the next logical
question is how much is (s)he willing to spend. There are a number of good
offerings out there and the recommendation will depend on the size of your
budget.

You can start your search from here:
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/partners/archivingandcompliance.asp


Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon

________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kern, Tom
Sent: Thu 9/1/2005 8:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Mail journaling(OT)


Sorry, I meant archiving.

They want to archiving everything to a 3rd party firm and not deal with it.
There has to be a better way than mapi to get the 3rd party all the emails.

Thanks

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       From: Phil Renouf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
       Sent: Thu 9/1/2005 11:08 AM
       To: [email protected]
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