I didn't know ISA did all this as part of NLB. Definitely not the classic NLB scenario, and I can certainly see how this sounds more like an active/active type cluster setup.
I definitely wouldn't use Veritas Cluster Exploder to make this further resilient. You'll find it works much better natively. :) Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ISA 2004 and Microsoft Cluster Server The simple answer: I don't know The rhetorical question: Why would you want to do that? A lot of things changed between ISA 2000 and 2004. I will confine my description to the Enterprise version. The built-in Array functionality has built-in intelligence that lets you leverage multiple array members and multiple configuration storage servers to provide a level of redundancy and load balancing. The typical NLB concept was taken to a higher level in ISA 2004, so the way ISA 2004 leverages NLB is not the way other apps (e.g. web farms) use it. ISA 2004 array (using NLB) will detect and remove a failed array member from the cluster transparently, and out-of-the-box. I can not readily locate a doc that covers this in details, so you may have to put on your google-fu belt and see if you can says something about ISA server 2004 and NLB. I know there is one. Now, if you are thinking of clustering the configuration storage servers, I can understand that, but it would be a waste of money, IMO. The config storage is ADAM-based, and you can have multiple storage servers, just like you have multiple DCs. Unless you are in the habit of clustering your DCs, I can not see why you'd want to cluster the storage servers either. But, that's just me. Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Aramide Adebanjo Sent: Mon 9/12/2005 2:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ISA 2004 and Microsoft Cluster Server Hey guys, Thanks for all these...now let me go a step further...what if a company wants to consolidate their applications,build redundancy, failver capabilites and implement clustering as well using Veritas clustering Solution....can ISA be treated as a microsoft application that can be clustered...?? And if yes..whats the best way of doing it...apparently not too many companies have towed this line..but what if it can be pulled of..whatcha ya all think...?? thx -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ISA 2004 and Microsoft Cluster Server >>Clustering and Load Balancing I wouldn't really call a tomato tomoto >>thing Maybe not in the ordinary sense, Brian. But in the ISA 2004 Enterp realm, we should be able to do that. OR, if you prefer, we can say "tomato" and "ketchup" or something. NLB is the way to go in ISA 2004, and the way ISA uses NLB (in addition to the new "Configuration Storage server" concept, you do indeed have some resilience that is not usually available in the "normal" NLB deployments. The only time I've seen ISA installed in another "clustering" configuration outside of NLB is when "Rain Wall" was used. Of course I haven't seen every ISA server installation, but I'd wager that NLB is generally considered the standard "clustering" solution for ISA 2004. Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Desmond Sent: Mon 9/12/2005 10:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ISA 2004 and Microsoft Cluster Server Clustering and Load Balancing I wouldn't really call a tomato tomoto thing. More an apples and oranges thing. Load Balancing is not a fault tolerant solution, whereas clustering if something breaks everything moves over to another node... Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Medeiros, Jose Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 1:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ISA 2004 and Microsoft Cluster Server Greetings Aramide, I do not believe that Microsoft ISA server 2004 can be clustered per say using Microsoft Cluster service. I took the ISA server 2000 & 2004 class and the MOC stated that the ISA 2004 Enterprise edition is designed to be load balanced which I believe would solve your issue ( It's just a terminology thing. You say tomato, I say tomoto... ) :-) http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/network_load_bala ncing_ee.mspx Jose -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aramide Adebanjo Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ActiveDir] ISA 2004 and Microsoft Cluster Server Hi guys, A quick one...does anyone have any idea where I can get documentation on installing ISA 2004 Standard/Enterprise edition on a Microsoft Clustering Solution. 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