Hi Brett

Thanks for your detailed response.  I see you've also managed to sort
out the formatting of the table in the article.  Oh, what power you
wield! :-)

The main issue I have is that the article introduces some "new"
exclusions.  I don't think I'm alone in thinking that the general
approach before this article came out was, "If your AV product is
FRS-compliant then include SYSVOL in scans.".  I am fully aware of the
effects of a virus being replicated by SYSVOL, having seen it
first-hand.  SYSVOL does a great job of moving a virus around a network
very quickly. :-)  So it's important to scan SYSVOL (or at least parts
thereof).

Going back to the issue, the 822158 article sets out exclusions, but
doesn't indicate why they should be exlcuded.  In other words, what is
the risk of including them?  This is relevant for at least one major AV
product vendor, which has a (somewhat stupid) low limit on the number of
files and folders that can be excluded on any one server.  I'm also not
convinced that the AV product I'm thinking of can perform the level of
granularity of inclusion/exclusion suggested in the table.

I can sort of understand why the staging areas would be excluded
(compressed files, possibility of locking), but why exclude
%systemroot%\sysvol and %systemroot%\sysvol\sysvol?  I can't see
anything in my test environment that would pose any problems by scanning
these folders.

Call me a control freak, but I just don't like seeing a statement such
as, "Do not scan the following files and folders." with no additional
explanation.

Tony

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Sysvol and AV exclusions


The articles should not be inconsistent.
The 822158 does mention 814263 (see bullet 2).

284947 - is how to detect and diagnose excessive FRS replication.
Noting it might be caused by Anti-Virus software.  And mentioning how to
recover.  
It is not SYSVOL specific, it is FRS specific.  But sincej SYSVOL is an
FRS share, so it applies to SYSVOL, if this should happen to your
SYSVOL.

814263 - is about Anti-Virus programs that are compatible with FRS from
a generic sense.  Againt not SYSVOL specific, FRS specific.  You will
want one of these programs to continue on with your configuration of
your DC's Anti-Virus program with 822158.

822158 - Is the penultimate article for DCs and anti-virus software. You
need to scroll over the very poorly formatted table, near the end.  
You'll note some part of the sysvol folder, are to be scanned and other
parts are excluded.  I believe the parts with the actual files (that
people can execute during logon due to policy) are to be scanned.

Let me know if you have any issues, or find my statements inaccurate ...

FYI, it is important to get a good anti-virus program (per 814263) and
configure it correctly (per 822158) to scan your SYSVOL shares, because
I've know a major company to get a virus in it's SYSVOL, such that
everyone who logged on would get the virus.  This is very nasty.  The
first thing the admin does to check out such an issue is ... log on to a
DC, which may not have actually been infected with a running copy of the
virus.  If you can get ahold of a virus'd exe, I'd drop it on your
SYSVOL just to check it works.

Cheers,
BrettSh [msft]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Tony Murray wrote:

> Hi all
>  
> For a while now, I've been including/excluding Sysvol from AV scans 
> based on the recommendations in these articles.
>  
> Antivirus programs may modify security descriptors and cause excessive

> replication of FRS data in SYSVOL and DFS
>  
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=284947
> <http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=284947>
> 
> Antivirus, backup, and disk optimization programs that are compatible 
> with the File Replication Service
> 
> 
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/815263/
> 
> In other words, if the AV software is not FRS-compliant then I exlude 
> Sysvol from scans.
>  
> However, I recently came across the following article:
>  
> Virus scanning recommendations on a Windows 2000 or on a Windows 
> Server
> 2003 domain controller
>  
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158>
>  
> This includes a recommendation to exclude Sysvol, but doesn't really 
> say why.  The article doesn't make any reference to the KB284947 and
> KB815263 articles, so I don't know whether the recommendations are 
> based on that information or new information.
>  
> Can anyone clarify the situation for me?
>  
> Tony
> 

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