Hi Guido,

What you write sounds good to me.

Yours, Sakari


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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Grillenmeier, Guido
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:13 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Create a group with a specified SID
> 
> rgd question B) 
> why should these groups have been removed from the NT4 BDCs 
> if the other
> 2003 DCs (incl. the new PDCE after the upgraded one was removed)
> apparently never knew of them? They would not have had a tombstone
> either and as such the PDCE would not remove the groups from the BDCs
> either.
> 
> /Guido
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sakari Kouti
> Sent: Mittwoch, 14. September 2005 21:03
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Create a group with a specified SID
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Now I drove to the "missing group site" to see the things with my own
> eyes.
> 
> I found out a slight detail that affects the case :-). In addition to
> the three WS2003 DCs, there were also some NT4 BDCs left. So 
> the problem
> of where the missing groups existed turned out to have quite 
> an obvious
> solution... (Actually, a little too obvious, because we all missed it.
> Not that I can blame anyone, because I told you that the the problem
> domain has three DCs, and I should have known about the NT4 ones...)
> 
> Two things remained a mystery, though.
> 
> A) Why they had disappeared from the WS2003 DCs in the first place. My
> guess is that because a replication issue they didn't replicate out of
> the upgraded PDC before those guys removed and formatted the upgraded
> PDC. (this I already knew but forgot to include in the case 
> description
> of my previous message, sorry) They did check that replication was ok,
> before they removed the DC, though.
> 
> B) From the in-place upgrade in July until last week (about six weeks,
> that is) the groups still existed in the NT4 BDC, although NT
> replication should have removed them. So why didn't this 
> work. My guess
> is a WINS (or name resolution) problem, so that the NT4 BDCs 
> didn't find
> their new PDC (emulator).
> 
> Yours, Sakari
> 
> PS. Even thought the explanation turned out to be quite obvious, this
> was still an interesting case.
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